Message from @Exiled Sentinel

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2018-11-06 16:38:42 UTC  

From the Chicago school to the Freiburg school

2018-11-06 16:44:16 UTC  

There is no reform to the hegemon minus what alters the capitalistic base

2018-11-06 16:44:29 UTC  

And by extension the superstructure

2018-11-06 16:44:50 UTC  

Neoliberalism is evil.

2018-11-06 16:44:50 UTC  

So no, liberals are not leftist

2018-11-06 16:44:54 UTC  

Yeah it is

2018-11-06 16:45:01 UTC  

Neoliberalism is evil

2018-11-06 16:45:43 UTC  

My sweet spot is Mercantilism+Protectionism+Very Powerful Unions

2018-11-06 16:46:41 UTC  

I don't consider people like TYT to left or right wing. The True Right would be more Authoritarian, More Socially Conservative, more autocratic

2018-11-06 16:47:16 UTC  

Unions are revolutionary devices depending on how you use them

2018-11-06 16:48:23 UTC  

I prefer the workers having the right of collective bargaining over reforming capitalism with more welfare programs

2018-11-06 16:51:07 UTC  

Collective bargaining is a good example of Marx's description of class antagonisms

2018-11-06 16:51:37 UTC  

Externally shows the value of labor is a tangible and empirical concept

2018-11-06 16:52:34 UTC  

The social relations of production inherently has contradictions but collective bargaining allows those contradictions of interest to show class conflict

2018-11-06 17:00:03 UTC  

Liberals are Leftists.

2018-11-06 17:00:20 UTC  

No dialectical lies are gonna' change that😂

2018-11-06 18:18:53 UTC  

We cannot define left and right solely based on a view of power and its distribution and that powers relation to economics. Economics rightfully deserves its own axis. If Im understanding what you are essentialyl saying is that marxism is the left while capitalism is the right, or rather who has power and the economics that go with this power. This creates a horribly skewed and brutally mobile axis and its brutally open ot interpretation.

THe better axis is based like what Draco said. Alternatively we could add a Z axis to get even more accurate but ramming two axes into one makes it just simply innacurate and pointlessly loose in its interpretation.

2018-11-06 19:18:38 UTC  

Political agency cannot be separated from economics

2018-11-06 19:18:53 UTC  

Your bourgeois apologetics are not founded on material analysis

2018-11-06 19:34:30 UTC  

Is there anything that you do not get out of Marx's ass?

2018-11-06 19:35:04 UTC  

No. It’s copy past communism

2018-11-06 19:43:11 UTC  

Lol, the word "leftist" originated before Marx. According to Marxists, they can just hand waive all those millions of leftists for not being true leftists.
It is like Christians calling Saint Peter as not Christian.
We should create a new Marxism and call all these Marxists fakers.

2018-11-06 19:43:30 UTC  

I hereby decree that Marxism means "2 girls 1 cup".

2018-11-06 20:27:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/509463935578275883/image0.png

2018-11-06 20:30:00 UTC  

Cope in this channel by bourgeois apologists

2018-11-06 20:30:39 UTC  

(((Proletariat)))

2018-11-06 21:18:48 UTC  

The word leftist was symbolic to those who opposed the hegemon which included largely of democratic socialists

2018-11-06 21:18:58 UTC  

Keep coping

2018-11-06 21:19:51 UTC  

And comparing it to calling saint peter not Christian makes no sense

2018-11-06 21:20:59 UTC  

You're trying to posit that an actual system of analysis is as incredulous as someone being a direct anathema to their religion

2018-11-06 21:21:28 UTC  

Haha non monarchist leftist 😎

2018-11-06 21:28:47 UTC  

(((Marx)))

2018-11-06 22:25:45 UTC  

yes

2018-11-06 22:25:50 UTC  

supreme juden

2018-11-06 22:37:49 UTC  

The funny thing about this is if you make liberals leftists, you then make mutualists far left, when they are the biggest centrists if I have ever seen a centrist. This is absolutely nonsensical, and liberal in the sense you're using it put social democracy as further left. Which is still a capitalist system. I've drawn a diagram on this let me get it

2018-11-06 22:39:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/509497000438530048/20180802_082741.png

2018-11-06 22:39:26 UTC  

The blue is liberals and conservatives

2018-11-06 22:39:33 UTC  

Yellow is social Democracy

2018-11-06 22:39:37 UTC  

Black is mutualism

2018-11-06 22:39:43 UTC  

Red is about where I am

2018-11-06 22:41:28 UTC  

what youre saying is that youre a god damn commie