Message from @Bogatyr Bogumir
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The point of contention is not authoritarianism for the right wing but preservation of the hegemon
Whose base is laissez-faire capitalism with somewhat stringent welfare practices seen further into the Eurosphere
By extension whose superstructure is liberal
The right wing therefore is based in bourgeois perpetuation
From the Chicago school to the Freiburg school
There is no reform to the hegemon minus what alters the capitalistic base
And by extension the superstructure
Neoliberalism is evil.
So no, liberals are not leftist
Yeah it is
Neoliberalism is evil
My sweet spot is Mercantilism+Protectionism+Very Powerful Unions
I don't consider people like TYT to left or right wing. The True Right would be more Authoritarian, More Socially Conservative, more autocratic
Unions are revolutionary devices depending on how you use them
I prefer the workers having the right of collective bargaining over reforming capitalism with more welfare programs
Collective bargaining is a good example of Marx's description of class antagonisms
Externally shows the value of labor is a tangible and empirical concept
The social relations of production inherently has contradictions but collective bargaining allows those contradictions of interest to show class conflict
Liberals are Leftists.
No dialectical lies are gonna' change that😂
We cannot define left and right solely based on a view of power and its distribution and that powers relation to economics. Economics rightfully deserves its own axis. If Im understanding what you are essentialyl saying is that marxism is the left while capitalism is the right, or rather who has power and the economics that go with this power. This creates a horribly skewed and brutally mobile axis and its brutally open ot interpretation.
THe better axis is based like what Draco said. Alternatively we could add a Z axis to get even more accurate but ramming two axes into one makes it just simply innacurate and pointlessly loose in its interpretation.
Political agency cannot be separated from economics
Your bourgeois apologetics are not founded on material analysis
Is there anything that you do not get out of Marx's ass?
No. It’s copy past communism
Lol, the word "leftist" originated before Marx. According to Marxists, they can just hand waive all those millions of leftists for not being true leftists.
It is like Christians calling Saint Peter as not Christian.
We should create a new Marxism and call all these Marxists fakers.
I hereby decree that Marxism means "2 girls 1 cup".
Cope in this channel by bourgeois apologists
(((Proletariat)))
The word leftist was symbolic to those who opposed the hegemon which included largely of democratic socialists
Keep coping
And comparing it to calling saint peter not Christian makes no sense
You're trying to posit that an actual system of analysis is as incredulous as someone being a direct anathema to their religion
Haha non monarchist leftist 😎
(((Marx)))
yes
supreme juden
The funny thing about this is if you make liberals leftists, you then make mutualists far left, when they are the biggest centrists if I have ever seen a centrist. This is absolutely nonsensical, and liberal in the sense you're using it put social democracy as further left. Which is still a capitalist system. I've drawn a diagram on this let me get it
The blue is liberals and conservatives