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Metal gear?

2018-07-25 18:15:46 UTC [Outer Heaven #join-list]  

2018-08-01 18:02:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

that's a question with a lot of hypotheticals.

2018-08-06 18:36:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Absolutely. Human history is determined by the most powerful overcoming their weaker adversaries, and the fact that modern civilization does not do this is simply a temporary phenomenon. War is inevitable, as it is impossible not to threaten a nation's values at all indefinitely. This, and economic or political aggression by another country, when taken to the extreme, is potential for a retaliation

2018-08-06 18:36:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

yes, it can

2018-08-06 18:37:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

lets say that a region occupied by one nation contains over 90% of your nation's citizens by nationality, and they are potentially being mistreated because of it

2018-08-06 18:37:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

the nation becomes hostile when asked to remedy the situation

2018-08-06 18:38:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

therefore a justification to claim that region by whatever means is justified

2018-08-09 18:38:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Remove repeat offenders from society completely, and change the view of society on crime

2018-08-09 18:39:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Related activities"

2018-08-09 18:40:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I think what he meant by that

2018-08-09 18:40:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

is how do we lower crime, and lower the rates of things considered crimes

2018-08-09 18:40:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

not just "make it legal"

2018-08-09 18:41:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

it happens

2018-08-22 01:42:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

It's funny that we have a conversation about how the acts of individuals in a race shouldn't reflect on that race as a whole, yet the acts of a nation mean that an individual is hunted all his life and treated in the worst way possible and we're totally fine with it

2018-09-04 02:31:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

>chad right

2018-09-16 21:20:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No, no, and no.

2018-09-19 16:36:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Holodomor happened, the state had a minor role in it, very minor, and no real means to prevent it, and the main blame lies with the Kulaks and hoarders

2018-09-19 16:36:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I would pin the death estimate at 4 million

2018-09-20 23:15:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

IT'S FRIDAY!

2018-10-07 17:27:44 UTC [Outer Heaven #join-list]  

2018-10-08 15:59:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"He discovered America"

2018-10-08 15:59:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Technically the Romans did

2018-10-08 16:00:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

He wasn't really of any significant importance, we would have found the Americas eventually anyways and we would've colonised them just the same

2018-10-08 16:01:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

>

2018-10-08 16:01:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Campodin

2018-10-08 16:01:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

There is evidence of Romans on the americas

2018-10-08 16:01:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Roman weaponry, a submerged roman vessel in Brazil, etc

2018-10-08 16:01:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Obviously they never colonised it or anything even close

2018-10-08 16:01:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But they got there

2018-10-08 16:02:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No, of course not

2018-10-08 16:02:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But the point his, Columbus did not discover America

2018-10-08 16:03:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I wouldn't say it was "irrelevant"

2018-10-08 16:03:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But I understand what you mean

2018-10-08 16:03:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Well actually we don't know that

2018-10-08 16:03:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The likelihood is that they did but they have since been destroyed

2018-10-08 16:04:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Especially since its possible to read the entirety of the remaining roman documents from the entire period in a lifetime

2018-10-08 16:04:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

There was much, much more and the Americas were probably mentioned, but it was most likely destroyed in the centuries to follow

2018-10-08 16:07:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Then you're a fool

2018-10-08 16:08:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The fact they were capable of doing so, and so early on in itself opens up an entirely new area of discussion on roman history

2018-10-08 16:08:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Intentional or not, it was achieved

2018-10-08 16:09:37 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No, the topic is on Christopher Columbus, and somebody made the claim he discovered America

2018-10-08 16:09:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I simply pointed out he didn't

2018-10-11 21:17:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The chinese as a people are getting older

2018-10-11 21:17:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The same problem europe is having will happen to china in the next 10-15 years

2018-10-14 19:36:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Basic universal rights, and mass employment opportunities

2018-10-14 19:36:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Benefits do not solve the problem, they make it worse

2018-10-16 21:35:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No

2018-10-16 21:35:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But they will within 10-15 years

2018-10-29 12:48:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Deleted User I love you.

2018-10-31 14:43:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

^

2018-10-31 14:44:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

By 1402 the byzantines were little more than a forced vassal, they didn't have the ability to do any real damage to constitute a revival

2018-11-01 20:58:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

>the Germans killed all the Prussians

2018-11-01 20:58:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Where the fuck did you hear that

2018-11-07 12:05:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Senate is more important than the house IMO

2018-11-07 12:06:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

anything the house passes, the senate has to ratify, and if the republicans control it, in the end they control what is implemented

2018-11-08 08:05:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Deleted User I miss you.

2018-11-13 13:07:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Kobach, but it'll be difficult to actually get him into the position

2018-12-03 14:21:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

EVERY STATE VOTES FOR JEB

2018-12-03 14:21:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Jeb harnesses the presidential power of his dead father and guilt trips everyone into electing him

2018-12-03 14:22:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

>the republicans won florida because of gerrymandering

2018-12-03 14:22:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Imagine thinking this

2018-12-12 20:50:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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Imagine actually being a fucking (((kulak)))

>thinking otherwise

Oh dear.

Kulaks were just greedy Ukrainian peasants who had for the first time been given a lot and let their families and friends die off so they could hoard an extra sack

They are the definition of social parasites

No

They replaced the Russian nobility

They weren't "successful" farmers

They replaced the nobility as small scale land barons, using other peasants as effectively slave labourers

Like the nobles had before the serfs were emancipated in 1861

The Kulaks did very little actual work themselves and just took the form of rich peasants that got rich via the expense of other peasants

Which led the country to multiple famines

Including the holodomor

the kulaks are literally one of the main causers of the Holodomor

Sure, the state could've alleviated it to a degree, but they'd been teetering on the brink of starvation since lenin's implementation of War communism in 1918 and the New Economic Policy in 1921

They had very little grain in reserves to stop the famine

The Kulaks, on the other hand, consumed or burned or killed their stocks

I believe the estimate is 27 million livestock slaughtered rather than be given to the collective farm program

And an untold amount of grain hoarded, consumed and burned

Rather than be given away

And as for "evidence", literally just look at Russian farming methods after 1861

@εïз irma εïз what do you mean what are Ukrainians

@Scipio Americanus stolen by who?

Stolypin's attempted land reforms were literally designed to combat the problem of a Kulak agriculture

And as for the state "stealing" the agriculture and livestock

The land was owned by the state, the state was either at war or suffering from horrendous post-war shortage, and the machines and tools used to harvest and cultivate the agricultural produce was provided by the state

The Kulak populations were exploitative and greedy, nothing more

They were a problem recognised as early as the 1880s

Vyshnegradsky tried to combat it unsuccessfully which led to the 1892 famine

He was replaced by Witte who also tried, but to little success

Then Stolypin tried land reform which would've worked better, and was similar to the idea of the Kolkhoz, but he was killed in 1911

The Kulak problem was not a soviet problem

It had been present for a good 50 years by the time Collectivism was implemented in 1929

And even after collectivization and the liquidation of the kulaks, there was huge agricultural issue all the way until the dissolution of the USSR

stalin did the best work for the agriculture

Khrushchev didn't do much with new ideas but expanded on what was there

And Brezhnev pissed it away like everything else

But the problem was never solved

@Mairon this tbh bring back gorbachev and let him break apart the world

Stalin was literally the best leader the Russians had in a *long* time

Unironically

Did wonders for the nation

Sure you can say "m-muh death toll!" But at the end of the day, people are a resource.

The needs and status of the nation surpass that of the individual in any sense

Yeah at the end of the day the entire concept is born from social stigma and a unity against a common enemy or drive for a goal

But that's philosophy bullshit and it is *not* what i want to discuss at 6am

Who is the tankie

Me?

Oh you think im commie lmao

No no

Dont get me wrong

The system itself is fucking horrendous

And the USSR was a mess at any level

HOWEVER

I have studied Stalin and the USSR a hell of a lot

So i find it hard not to appreciate the success they had

Which people immediately jump to me being a slavshit

Exactly

You can't deny success there

Especially when you look at how absolutely FUCKED lenin left it

@CrowGoCaw Roosevelt was a kike warmonger and churchill was his puppet dancer

That's the top and bottom of it

Roosevelt was on the warpath by 1938

There's a reason he got really fucking chummy with Chamberlain after the Munich Conference when the two despised each other beforehand

Lots of historians

In books i read on this kind of stuff

A common thing i see is something along the lines of the following

"Germany's continuation of the war to the very last was foolish, and it would only have been excusable if they'd held in the east and let the allies through in the west"

But they forget that at Teheran in 43 Roosevelt literally speaks up in the middle of a conference, completely unnanounced and says

"The war will not end without complete unconditional surrender"

(Which churchill, to his credit, was extremely pissed off at him for)

Roosevelt wanted Germany removed as an economic threat years before the war began and he used Russian and British bodies to do it

Yeah exactly

Guys ignore the soviet hordes raping and murdering across the east, and ignore the bomber campaign to flatten Germany

@Mairon Germany offered a *COMPLETE* withdrawal from France and a peace treaty with no concessions with the west on the condition they allowed Germany to invade the soviets

4 times

Before June 1941

So within the space of a year, 4 offers were made

All were refused by Churchill

Also fun fact

The royal family invited Hess to the British Isles but he fucked the flight plan up, and Goring knew about it which is why he didnt shoot him down when "ordered" to

So when he was caught and arrested the royals swept it all under the rug

Yeah no that was unfeasible until at least like, 1943

Germany didn't have the troop transports for it

Yeah by 42 there was no point

And honestly, the Western Front really did not do much until March 1945

At which point the war was well and truly over

Mmhm

Oh boy what is this

"Who killed Stalin?"

Easy answer, Beria

Well, you say that

If Italy hadn't invaded the fucking greeks in May 41

It may have gone a lot differently

the Italians delayed barbarossa for 2-3 months, the best months of the year

The Germans were ready to go in late april

@Mairon Italy is a military blight

Problem was that Italy was simply not equipped or ready for a major European war

@εïз irma εïз the problem wasn't that they invaded greece

It was that they asked the Germans for help

And the Germans sent multiple armoured divisions that were vital to Barbarossa

Idk

An extra 2 months of non-winter advance in 1941 would've gotten the Germans a hell of a lot more significant gains

Particularly in the south

Oh yeah i know

I'm not disputing that

Im saying the earlier they started the better

Im not saying that it was a huge logistical blow

Just that it delayed the implementation of the plan

This is true

The modern roma are

Well to call them subhuman would be a compliment

Its a wonder they're sentient

Why not both?

Antonescu and Celibidache

>Germany should start WW3

inb4 they lose it and get another 1/4 of their land taken away

MERKEL

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Celibidache

he makes good music

made*

epic!

If you think the scots and the irish can get along well enough to be in a union, I have bad news

Plus, the Irish probably wont want to go from one union to another smaller, weaker union

They *really* want independence

>the whites

Imagine

Imagine thinking a pro-tsarist system would ever work

Oh lord

Oh dios mio

Collapse of Tsardom was inevitable after 1861

Hell, 1855

If the commies lost the Ukrainians would've had full independence

@Honey Beanger Alexander II was the root of the problem

His early forms and Emancipation fucked the tsars

Okay let me put it to you like this

For hundreds of years your entire state and economy runs on a serf-based state

Its established and entirely dependent on that

All of a sudden, that is abolished with no clear alternative, and the nation plunges downwards economically and socially

Tell me that is a good choice

In any capacity

@Honey Beanger export and foreign investment plummeted until the 1890s

For a good 20 years Russia was in free fall

The empire was stable until the emancipation and liberalisation

Yes, they were behind, but a gradual transition would have helped them catch up

The emancipation was the most ill-conceived, badly implemented solution to the problem possible

Not to mention the fact that the Nobles, who at the very least kept a lid on things, were now replaced by Kulaks

Who were literally just peasants that exploited the vacuum

The empire was stagnant, sure

And was falling behind

Do i need to get my big book of statistics?

Do i really need to do that at 6:45am?

Because i will

@εïз irma εïз im confused are we saying that russia was stagnant or that it wasnt

Who are you agreeing with

Based

I wouldnt say it was crumbling by any means, but it was certainly lagging behind

There hadn't been an industrial revolution, the state was an agrarian one and infrastructure was weak or non-existent

HOWEVER

The state itself was very strong internally

And there was not even any kind of major brewing anti-tsarist movement until after the emancipation

You mean the Okhrana and the exile system?

Yeah it doesnt take a genius to see the links

Only difference is the soviets had more guns

And more fences

Plus, the gulag system was an actual labour system

Rather than just "okay you live here now lol"

Lenin? Sure

Stalin? God no

Stalin literally rebuilt the system from the ground up and burned anything that wouldn't comply

Lenin was an incompetent economist and statesman

He was a man of ideology not a man of politics or economics

He showed that very clearly

As for stuff being laid down by imperials

If Stolypin hadn't been assassinated in 1911, and his agriculture reforms had been given another few years

Yeah, maybe

But as it was there wasn't much at all to work with other than Witte's scramble for industrial reform

Which was hardly monumental

Also he Lenin ruined the remains of the Russian economy and industry

Absolutely trashed it

how about this

The entire russian civil war was a clusterfuck

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