Any professional is going to tell you that someone cant be your sole happiness and you've gotta find something else to do.

Even if it's just lie in bed and hide for a bit

Her friend is pissed and says that I should just quit since I can’t seem to help

Tell her to get whiskey drunk and listen to 70s country western?

That’s my coping mechanism

“I don’t choose to be this way”

That's what I do, I figure it's good as anything

Sure is

Sounds like she grew dependant and thats bad and its not wrong for you to feel exhausted by having to try and help the most you can do is listen and suggest help whatever medium they decide to use is up to them

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ might I suggest sleeping with her sister?

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ I have a cousin that’s the same way. He did some dumb shit and was an absolute shitbag to his ex who wants absolutely nothing to do with him and he’s obsessed with her, like creepy stalker obsessed. And he says all the time he wants to kill himself, and I talked to him when no one else would and he told me everything, and as much as I tried to help him, he never helped himself and just kept making himself depressed about it by looking at the 1500+ pictures of her on his phone. When someone constantly talks about it, it’s done for attention and nothing else.

It’s aggravating as shit

“I don’t choose to be like this”

“I don’t wanna be like this”

“Nothing can help”

“No-one cares”

“My mind won’t accept that anyone can care”

Like Jesus fuck I wouldn’t be helping constantly if I didn’t care

Seriously. And not to be overly sexist but when A chick does this it is absolutely about attention. And nothing more. Your best bet is to block her for a solid week and see if that doesnt get her moving on to the next victim. These kinda chicks need reinforcement of the behavior or they find the nearest person to start the same bs with. Total block, phone, FB, no in person, nada.

Zoomer, there comes a time that you just have to walk away and let them deal with it, as shitty as that sounds. You can talk until you’re blue in the face, but if they don’t want to stop doing that because they’ve learned it gets them the attention they want, there’s nothing you can do to help them if they don’t want to help themselves, no matter how hard you try. She wants attention. Point blank.

Thanks guys.

“if i don't let them in then maybe me dying wont affect them that much. cus they'll start to care less n if i have no one to care ab me then ill have even less of a purpose.”

Her response to me telling her to let a therapist and her family in.

Sure as hell sounds like she just wants a reason to die.

“you think i wanted it to come to this? cus i didn't but i really have no choice. “

Other people care and can get her the appropriate care. Push that and you may have to tell someone.

Told her mother.

Good call.

That was the best thing you could have done honestly.

Mental health is complex and there needs to be a support system of people.

you can't physically do anything to "save" her and i'm sure you already know that all you can do is offer support and resources from professionals that can help her if she really is suffering from a nasty chemical imbalance in her brain (because thats really all it is). you certainly can't force her to get help so all you can do is offer to maybe bring her to see a therapist or tell her about the hotlines that are out there. Keeping her family in the loop is best because at the end of the day shes their responsibility shes their family

but at the end of the day she has to voluntarily choose to go seek help from someone who can help her overcome any feelings a hopelessness or anxiety or any of the other feelings that come with depression, she can get accurately (hopefully) diagnosed and treatment.

Hey Zoomer, coming from somebody that's had that stuggle with depression and hopelessness, I can tell you that you did the right thing speaking to this chick's mother.

However, in the future - don't start being a supportive figure for someone with mental illnesses and just dip out of nowhere.

Truth ^^

> Hey Zoomer, coming from somebody that's had that stuggle with depression and hopelessness, I can tell you that you did the right thing speaking to this chick's mother.
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> However, in the future - don't start being a supportive figure for someone with mental illnesses and just dip out of nowhere.
@CowboyLeone#0794

I haven’t dipped. I’m supporting however I can, I just needed to vent as it was getting aggravating as hell. I told her mother and I’m fairly sure her mother is going to get her professional help.

@John Public I slept with my ex’s older sister who sought me out and she got engaged a week later and is preggers, slight chance it could be mine but I doubt it.

Theory of mine.

Human society exists in a constant cycle of violent segregation of tribes, eventual integration, peacful coexistence, ideological clash, open violent seperation, rinse and repeat. We are destined to never have a political or societal model last more than 100 years, due to a variety of factors such as greed, wealth, and the inherent herd mentality

I think 100 years may be a little short. China showed us that dynasties usually last 300 or so. Of course, if all depends on how strong the foundation is.

In the Information Age, where everything can be transmitted in fractions of a second, it does make sense that those “dynasties” would last for shorter and shorter periods of time, especially as populations, and, more importantly, population *density* continues to increase.

All assuming a relatively free flow of information, accurate or otherwise.

That being said, 70 years between major wars does seem to be about average, so I can see where 100 years would be the reasonable benchmark there.

Major wars here being defined as conflicts like WWI and WWII, where multiple actors mobilize multiple armies in open conflict. Although I think the days of that have passed us by for the most part. Fourth generation warfare seems to be more or less the norm now.

Violence is part of nature humans are part of that too things we describe as inherently evil are more or less not. (with the exception of pedophilia) Subjugation of humans isnt an evil thing either it is truly natural. I know it sounds like im trying to push some racial eugenics but im not it more or less the fact that all of are history is humans subjugating each other over and over. But nowadays we dont so now we are trying to break the cycle and in doing so there will be a learning peroid for the masses to catch up on. I noticed that virtue signaling is a form of subjugation nowadays its a subliminal way to say "look at that human hes different from us now shun him hate him for being different" its no different from when we called each spics niggers wopps mics and crackers. The whole system we built even on the founsing fathers had a caste/class ideaology embedded into it. Because as jordan peterson realized ever thing has a hierarchy. Amd until we break that mentality then we can become the star children we were meant to be colonizing star to star.

We need conflict in order to thrive