You heard lies.

Personally, the lowest one that I'd trust. Is the Israeli civilian mask. Just make sure you have a newer filter.

If a red dot is an ‘aid’ then so are irons?
Why the fuck would we make shooters learn on a harder system, that is outdated? Irons fail too?

Ehh, I dunno. It just seems better to have that understanding of how they work first, of course that's opinion and we don't have to agree 100%. But it's important to know both, whichever one you decide to start with, don't neglect the other.

I would like optics with backup irons.. eventually. Getting a gun obviously comes first. My damn $1200 hasn't arrived yet.

I genuinely think that learning irons *first* makes you a worse shooter with a red dot

Thats what I run, red dot with offset irons
Incase I fuck up my redot somehow

That's an interesting view... no idea why. I had zero problems moving to dot dots after irons, lol

I only use offsets if I'm running a scope. I use flip ups otherwise.

Offsets offer a higher chance of getting snagged on something or bumped.

I have flip up but run a magifier

Hell, if you have a micro dot you can put that on a 45 offset mount

Training yourself to use multiple focal planes builds a habit of not being threat focused

ACOG, offset T1, KAC backup, peq, OKW

That Gucci wire lol

What wire hanger you running lol

A 3rd hole. That’s a work gun

The military likes us to wire our optics down.

@Sparrow i know the russian ones are obviously cheaply made and the gp-5 filters have asbestos but i mean would it still be safe to use the gp-7 as long as it seals? or is there a bigger problem with them that im missing

Anybody have experience with Enola Gaye smoke grenades? Do they provide actual concealment?

No that shits gay

They *might* produce enough output for signaling

The only enola gay smoke grenades that actually produce a decent level of smoke are their biggest ones, which are too cumbersome to carry

The proper seal is a huge issue with them. And they fog like a motherfucker and your head is gonna turn into a swampland

they do produce enough for signals though

even their biggest ones are pretty worthless for concealment

Well, relative to whomst you’re signaling, from where, in what environment

decent enough to signal to someone within a few hundred yards, or low flying aircraft. Not much else

their biggest one that is

@Sparrow i will definetly look into the isreali masks then what should look for for filter

They should use standard NATO 40mm filters i think.

I know their “military” style one isn’t available for purchase except in the field at events

Don't quote me on that though

I have 4 of the 18x supposed to be the step down from the big one

Sucks you can’t buy m18s

I need this... lol

Any recommendations for a Gortex type jacket that isn't over 300 bucks? Need it for actual operations, just wondering if anyone has experience with decently priced options.

I'd love to spend money on Crye and Arc'teryx. But shit that's expensive

Keybase is wild ya'll