I think showing we're not just a bunch of right wing extremists is important. Shit, I'm an anarchist. Edit: There's a pretty big variety of people involved.

"I agree. I think the push has got to be towards demonstrating that we, the b--g community, are not violent extremist who spend our time larping with machine guns and demonstrating our white privilege. We need to show that we are the ones practicing diversity and believe that liberty, real liberty is and must be the foundation of everything day life" - @John Public

My bad. First time ive used that word and I usually do better at self censorship. Won't happen again

Ban @John Public

Lol

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It's all good. But diversity in and of itself is not necessarily a virtue as is diversity of thought.

That is the best diversity, the only one that really matters but we will always face the problem of "your all just angry white men" label unless and until we can demonstrate the popular ideal of "racial" diversity

If we pull something like that we will lose a bunch of the conservative base, of course that is not to say that ethnic minorities should not be included.

I've been talking to black folks on Facebook upset about Ahmaud's death. Planting seeds in their minds that we're in this together.

"planting seeds" you make it sound so sinister

And I dont believe we should be going for the tokenism that so many movements fall into. But I firmly believe that our values are shared by more people, of all kinds, than not. I just think alot of people are 1. Uninformed either intentionally or as a productbof nurture/nature and 2. Afraid of going against what is presented by the MSM as the prevailing wisdom or popular opinion.
It's human nature to not wabtvto make waves. The people who do get noticed, and those who are noticed are the ones with little red dots on their foreheads. Its always easier to go along go get along.

Planting seeds shouldn't be seen as sinister. Its how the tree of knowledge gets started. You can't dump the truth of the world on someone and expect anything other than rejection. Again, human nature

true

@John Public oh hey, any word on kids sizes clothing?

Yeah so despite me being 110% behimd it, she is..... Less than thrilled. I see her point and again, if I were the one dressing them, hell yeah but looks like daddy lost another one. Ain't gonna stop me from ordering mine tho. And I might even get her one lol

Lol all good. Yeah I totally understand not wanting children wearing what I sell 😂

I think they make greatbkids clothes. But she's al "what will people think" and "you want them to wear what??"
Women

We need to make sure we have a presence at every protest for Sean Reed and Ahmaud Arbery. Show we’re against brutality no matter the race

Lol I was sitting here wondering how we make our affiliation known, then it struck me. Wear our trademark Hawaiian shirts to the protests, duh.

so that begs the question @Pat.Henry

whats our patch going to be?

Doesn’t have to be our main patch but I think it would be cool to make some patches or flags with what was shared earlier

Maybe minus the confederate flag cap and less “thuggish” attributes. Just something to show unity in race

How can we improve this

I like the original one

Too divisive imo there are a lot of strong opinions on there

It's already less relatable for me because I don't give a damn about the constitution. Lol.

George Washington would probably challenge you to a duel for that shit :p

I think we should stop with the word b**g

If we rebrand ourselves the new term will eventually get propaganda put out against it too. Idk.

thats why i think liberty or liberty movement would be good. its harder to twist liberty into something bad

liberty

n.
The condition of being free from confinement, servitude, or forced labor.
n.
The condition of being free from oppressive restriction or control by a government or other power.

Not a bad idea now that I’ve put my smooth brain to thinking about it

Now you guys are getting it...I have been saying it for years...can't put a label or symbol on it. It will get vilified and discredited...make it an ideal. Ideals lead to legacy... and that is really what we are after. That is why 250 years later, we are willing to once again water the tree...

Anyone in any music scenes like raves, punk shows, slot of alternative cultures are pro liberty

A surprising amount of car guys are pro-liberty/anti-cop

Speeding tickets will do that I guess

I graduated opata when I was 19 and I didn't continue to being a cop because they are there to enforce a law and not what's right

In Canada it's called the Patriot movement