Message from @Sh0t
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Brexit is a dying right-wing xenophobic fantasy
An absolute waste of time, effort, and money
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"xenophobic fantasy" lol
"Right-wing", yes. Because Corbyn is very right wing
Corbyn is wishy-washy about it, flip flopping where convenient. Though his overall position has been fairly anti-EU
He's only wishy washy because of his party
He's always been a Eurosceptic
But he knows that the other members of his Party want to Remain
It's why he's "neutral" about it
He knows he has to say Remain but he can't get himself to say it
Corbyn was right to be Euroskeptic when he first got started, but the EU has moved away from those earlier positions
I think he missed that. Unlike the Eurozone countries, Britain can get the best of both worlds, but that would require the Tories to drop their 'reasons' for opposing any fiscal policy
Anytime Britain has an advantage, the Tories seem desperate to destroy it as fast as possible
Euroscepticism used to be mainly a left-wing trait because the EU has always been about making a profit, basically Capitalism. Socialists like George Calloway and Tony Benn have been critical about it for years but the Leave Campaign was led by Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson and so Brexit became interpreted as a Neoliberal dream instead of the Socialist hope that Britain could truly become Socialist without the EU's regulations
Btw, I'm not a Socialist
as things stand now in Britain, leaving the EU is going to be a huge hit to british workers because the tories, if they stay in power, are committted to the very policies that dropped workers' share of Gross income there
the brexit campaign is mostly abotu getting britain away from those pro-labor policies that are clearly evident in many EU countries, along with those really slimey tax and reporting issues, and the product standards
True but that's Democracy and we voted them in. Staying in the EU just because you don't like the Government is a ludicrous argument
I'm not a brit, so i'm watching from the outside, but i follow it. I dont think the people voted for any specific Brexit, they voted for an abstract idea
With a published Brexit deal . I think it another ref would be fair because what was sold and what was delivered as very different
For example, the main brexit personalities were clearly either dead wrong or lying about the trade pictur post brexit
that is uncontestable. to see average brits talk about 'falling back on wto rules' makes me cross myself and im not a believer
Maybe so but could another Referendum be a democratically treasonous act towards 17.4 million people who voted to leave? Even the marginal remainers just want to get Brexit done
I dunno man, it's a tough question but I think things change dramatically when you actually have a document on the table
general election might be enough
If what Boris 'negotiated' last month was put in front of the British people 2 years ago, I doubt things would have gone that way or been even close
jesus what a picture
``` Fridayβs terrorist attack on London Bridge will have reminded many voters of the security risk that a Corbyn government would pose.```
The Deal would make a difference but with the Backstop removed, many English, Welsh and Scottish leavers would be indifferent about the Deal and would support it
Whereas for Northern Ireland, they would see it as a direct threat to the Union.
Union dosent have to be under threat if we just make a borer
Border
I mean, the DUP are the No Party
They said no to the Good Friday Agreement but now are against anything that can "threaten" that agreement they hate?
Listen
Britain doesn't want to be in the fourth reich, Britain is Britain
brexit means brexit
EU AND BRITAIN BIG GAYπΆ
Britain so you're saying Northern Ireland aren't gay