Dr.Cosby

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Trump is a big pile of shit

Definitely not just Trump, agreed

I mean, his approval is still something like 50 percent right?

Half of Americans love the guy

Did somebody say something about child porn? <:ainz:538084033410891776>

That sounds pretty illegal

I don't think I want my anus gauged quite so big in jail

The FBI is already here

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+1 for communism and socialism

I can "see" the reason people believe in God, the same way I can "see" why people practice female circumcision with pieces of broken glass.

Established monotheistic religions especially (versus some kind of a "personal god")

Making fun of people's voices <:waitwhat:583236680903950355> Are you 12?

2019-07-25 08:12:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Modern nuclear is extremely safe. The handling and storage of nuclear waste is mostly a logistical issue - there is PLENTY of room to store it contained.

2019-07-25 08:15:38 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

As for denying global warming or what right-wingers are finally "upgrading" to - claiming it's just nature, not manmade - how do you feel smart when your opinions differ from vast consensus in the scientific community? Do you believe you're smarter in this topic than all of them? Or is it conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton paying all those scientists off?

2019-07-25 08:19:55 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Totally demented. I hope you're just greedy morally defunct people (lots of evidence to support that) who stand to gain money in some way by denying it. That, I can accept. But intellectual dishonestly and rampant disrespect for the scientists who elevated us out of the dark ages? Shame on you.

2019-07-25 08:45:54 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

"suprematists" don't exist, so I think Black Lives Matter wins by default there.

2019-07-25 08:47:40 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Yeah, 15 seems a bit low to me as well. In many places, 15 is barely enough to scrape by.

2019-07-25 08:50:22 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Socialism > Communism

p!catch psyduck

p!catch PSYDUCK

Lame

2019-07-25 11:07:37 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

What happens if you inherit a million bucks under socialism?

2019-07-25 11:07:49 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Big Brother takes it?

2019-07-25 11:07:52 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Lol

2019-07-25 11:08:15 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Don't conflate socialism with the other aspects surrounding it.

2019-07-25 11:08:37 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

There can be a socialistic society where you can "inherit a million bucks"

2019-07-25 11:10:07 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Literally, what is the point of a "minimum wage" if it's not enough for people to live a comfortable life?

2019-07-25 11:10:24 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Everyone has a different perception of what is "comfortable", sure.

2019-07-25 11:11:07 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But I think it's not so difficult to settle on some common sense metrics (like not working 40+ hours per week, just to make ends meet)

2019-07-25 11:11:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Yes, people are prone to take advantage of wiggle room - and people are prone to overspending and living out of their means.

2019-07-25 11:12:34 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Does it make sense that people who work as hard (or harder) than others get paid less?

2019-07-25 11:12:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

The Walmart CEO isn't working thousands of times harder than his employees.

2019-07-25 11:13:06 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Why is he getting paid thousands of times more?

2019-07-25 11:14:30 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I understand that market conditions regulate salary (for the most part) - if the CEO wasn't "worth" that much, the company (or board of directors or stockholders or w/e) should be able to find a cheaper employee, right?

2019-07-25 11:14:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But somehow this doesn't end up working so well

2019-07-25 11:15:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

In fact, it ends up working in a disgusting and immoral manner

2019-07-25 11:15:38 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I'm not a specialist on the matter, but you don't have to be to see how bad it is

2019-07-25 11:16:49 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I think ultimately, people in those positions get there due to pure luck. Whether through family connections (as is usual) or other means

2019-07-25 11:17:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Okay, so minimum wage is a different topic? I mean, it sort of is

2019-07-25 11:17:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But if you start regulating the "upper bound" on what is a reasonable wage for certain positions, why not a "lower bound"?

2019-07-25 11:18:48 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

If it's ridiculous for a CEO to earn thousands of times what his employees earn, isn't it ridiculous for employees to earn not enough to...live?

2019-07-25 11:19:24 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Perhaps you have a more fancy version of fixing the problem

2019-07-25 11:20:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But without overhauling quite a few systems, I don't see a better solution than increasing minimum wage (both to compensate for inflation, as well as realistic economic opportunities in the places where they live)

2019-07-25 11:20:47 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Yeah, simply cutting CEO pay isn't going to do much, sure

What's going on here?

2019-07-25 11:22:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I'm also for universal basic income

2019-07-25 11:24:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I agree about the free market regulating things, for the most part. However, when a particular wage isn't enough for "living", isn't that enough reason to set a boundary?

2019-07-25 11:25:07 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You said you don't like minimum wage - do you think it should go away completely, then?

2019-07-25 11:25:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

$0 minimum wage?

2019-07-25 11:25:25 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Tell me though, I'm curious how extreme you are about this

2019-07-25 11:25:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Okay

2019-07-25 11:26:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Now, THAT has been proven to be detrimental and leads to slave-like conditions for workers

2019-07-25 11:26:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Perhaps there are other systems you'd have in place to offset that?

2019-07-25 11:27:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

If NOTHING ELSE there are people who are stupid (or mentally ill), or immigrants without language skills and serious insecurities, or etc, that can be taken advantage of

2019-07-25 11:27:57 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Somebody will probably take the job - that's what ends up happening man

2019-07-25 11:28:15 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

It's exploitation

2019-07-25 11:29:15 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

People get screwed by their employers all the time. I had an ex who worked as a waitress and her "minimum wage" was even lower (wtf?) - and her boss took her tips

2019-07-25 11:29:27 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Without government regulation, this stuff happens time and time again

2019-07-25 11:29:46 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Minimum wage is just ONE check-and-balance to keep things from being too fucked up

2019-07-25 11:30:01 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Why didn't she quit, right?

2019-07-25 11:30:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

She was a middle-class white American girl

2019-07-25 11:30:18 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Why not just find another job?

2019-07-25 11:30:27 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Maybe she was just stupid!

2019-07-25 11:30:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But she worked there for almost a year. Even when living with her parents and being able to find somewhere else.

2019-07-25 11:31:27 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

People get bent over the barrel man

2019-07-25 11:31:34 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Even WITH "good" minimum wage

2019-07-25 11:31:55 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I also see what you are saying

2019-07-25 11:32:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

And again, I am very pro free market working things out

2019-07-25 11:32:22 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

To me, it makes perfect sense that it would sort itself out

2019-07-25 11:32:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But that's in a perfect situation where everyone is intelligent and able to switch jobs willy nilly, you know?

2019-07-25 11:34:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Like, a simple wrench to throw in those gears is how people need money NOW to pay for stuff. And they desire stability and stuff from their job. They get hired at a suboptimal rate, they are very likely to stay there, even if it's shitty

2019-07-25 11:35:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You can blame them for being dumb, when the next door fast food place if offering a bit more money

2019-07-25 11:35:14 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But it's not so simple in real life situations

2019-07-25 11:35:49 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

And don't forget about monopolization as well as unofficial cooperation that almost certainly goes on behind closed doors

2019-07-25 11:36:11 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Is it really that hard for businesses to band together to screw people by all offering extra low wages?

2019-07-25 11:38:30 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Of course

2019-07-25 11:39:38 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Basically, I see this a bit as a "theory" versus "practical application" type thing. In theory, it makes sense to let the free market regulate this stuff, but in practice it doesn't seem to work well.

2019-07-25 11:40:16 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

So, while some kind of an overhaul of the system might make more sense, at least for shorter term solutions, playing with minimum wage is a way to offset some of the bad stuff

2019-07-25 11:40:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

That too. It's really tricky and full of variables

2019-07-25 11:42:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But as far as minimum wage goes - there are real tangible benefits. Some reported negatives as well, yes. But even if you use the "free market" model - the person you will be paying 15/hr is PROBABLY going to end up being a more valuable asset than the 7/hr guy anyways, no?

2019-07-25 11:42:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Like, you're gonna hire the best guy

2019-07-25 11:42:25 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

And more money attracts better people

2019-07-25 11:42:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Will if fully compensate for itself? Probably not in many cases, tbh

2019-07-25 11:43:48 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But morally, it's good. And for society as a whole, it seems good. Your burger flipper is better at flipping his burgers (and all the other stuff that comes with the job), and he's going to have a better life, have better kids, etc

2019-07-25 11:46:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

But why not? Why not have the minimum be something that lets you live - again, everyone's definition of "comfortable" is different, but surely there are some basics that aren't hard to agree upon

2019-07-25 11:47:37 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Isn't it sadistic to have somebody work hard all day, and not be able to support themselves?

2019-07-25 11:48:28 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Stop imagining the lazy guy who wants to work as little as possible and wants to just "squeeze by" with handouts

2019-07-25 11:48:52 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Much more typical is the HARD WORKER who works 40+ hours per week

2019-07-25 11:49:14 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Why doesn't he deserve a comfortable life?

2019-07-25 11:49:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

He's not working any less than other people! In fact, many of those jobs are harder and require MORE work

2019-07-25 11:50:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Alright, say something smart now.

2019-07-25 11:51:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You're religious too, so I know this is going to be Good and Smart.

2019-07-25 11:53:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Pure speculation.

2019-07-25 11:53:40 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Too many variables at play to make an argument like "inheritance doesn't work" when socialism is involved.

2019-07-25 11:54:10 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

You can still have rich people and (comparatively) poor people with socialism.

2019-07-25 11:56:10 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

The difference is that the poor aren't buttfucked into the dirt without a toilet to crap in, and the rich aren't shitting in solid gold toilets with supermodels wiping their assholes.

2019-07-25 11:58:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Where did you live, where $11 per hour was your wage, and your living conditions seemed adequate to you - with $500 of throwaway money too! What was your rent? What modern amenities did you have (TV, PC with fast internet, etc)?

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