Message from @Pelth
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I've read the US founding generation's stuff. I've read and seen the development of the European experiment
But there are still striking similarities to the EU states and the U.S. They're actively trying to turn the whole of Europe into one big country.
Either way, Poland and Hungary should leave the EU all together.
The EU was formed to benefit the likes of Germany, Denmark, and France.
The EU never had 'must give same-sex marriage' as a human rights requirement, and it never had must be X or you get kicked out.
Some states are more conservative than others.
As is countries in the EU
Yep.
So to me, thats similar in nature.
Though the EU is not as federalized as America, and you can't pass laws like the US can at a national level.
Which is a big weakness of the EU system.
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Yeah, not yet, at least. but they're working on that.
I think Europe should remain a continent, not a state.
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Oh?
What is brexit?
Brexit is Britain's exit to leave the European Union
Brexit is a dying right-wing xenophobic fantasy
An absolute waste of time, effort, and money
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"xenophobic fantasy" lol
"Right-wing", yes. Because Corbyn is very right wing
Corbyn is wishy-washy about it, flip flopping where convenient. Though his overall position has been fairly anti-EU
He's only wishy washy because of his party
He's always been a Eurosceptic
But he knows that the other members of his Party want to Remain
It's why he's "neutral" about it
He knows he has to say Remain but he can't get himself to say it
Corbyn was right to be Euroskeptic when he first got started, but the EU has moved away from those earlier positions
I think he missed that. Unlike the Eurozone countries, Britain can get the best of both worlds, but that would require the Tories to drop their 'reasons' for opposing any fiscal policy
Anytime Britain has an advantage, the Tories seem desperate to destroy it as fast as possible
Euroscepticism used to be mainly a left-wing trait because the EU has always been about making a profit, basically Capitalism. Socialists like George Calloway and Tony Benn have been critical about it for years but the Leave Campaign was led by Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson and so Brexit became interpreted as a Neoliberal dream instead of the Socialist hope that Britain could truly become Socialist without the EU's regulations
Btw, I'm not a Socialist
as things stand now in Britain, leaving the EU is going to be a huge hit to british workers because the tories, if they stay in power, are committted to the very policies that dropped workers' share of Gross income there
the brexit campaign is mostly abotu getting britain away from those pro-labor policies that are clearly evident in many EU countries, along with those really slimey tax and reporting issues, and the product standards
True but that's Democracy and we voted them in. Staying in the EU just because you don't like the Government is a ludicrous argument