Message from @DrYuriMom
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You really seem to like it...I think it might be hurting your brain though
Reading in general should be good for you, but I doubt you do more than look at the headlines and pictures
"good laughs" indeed <:honk:583238347124637707>
Trump is dead
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Old news, but DAMNIT PUTIN
Why is my school shutting down for 2 weeks over some damn Corona virus. The flu kills more people it isn't even THAT serious
GG @Butternuggetz, you just advanced to level 4!
Trying to blunt the spike to keep resources from bei g overwhelmed
It's the best way to reduce the 1 million dead estimate I and others have predicted in each of US and EU
Also because schools are among the worst areas for a virus to spread in
This virus' death rate from confirmed resolved cases is 7% also, which is 70 times the flu's average death rate of .1%
We still don't know the denominator. There are a lot of younger cases that never get reported
Look at the Diamond Princess which is probably the most perfect numbers we'll ever see. 7 deaths and 325 recovered. That's about 2.15%.
If you look at total infected, it's 7 deaths for 696 cases, or exactly 1%
Assuming no more deaths
My best estimate all along has been 0.7% mortality as a conservative number. I'm sticking with that for the overall population. A cruise ship tends toward older people.
I also estimate 40-50% of people will get it. For the US: 327 million Americans * 0.45 contracting * 0.007 mortality = 1.03 million dead
That number may be lower if we can stretch this out through rational measures. The more we slow this, the more people we can prevent from getting it before we have a vaccine. The key is reducing the 40-50% infected rate.
Banning travel between countries and destroying our economy is not a rational measure, by the way
the Diamond Princess numbers are not perfect though, this is a very isolated case that had access to a number of health professionals. It's very unwise to treat this as some sort of baseline, since populations on the mainland likely won't recieve nearly as much care as the cases on the cruise did.
My numbers are for the US or another western developed country
How exactly is restricting travel from heavily affected countries not a good measure to take?
And they assume we can spred this out a bit for older people
Because almost no one under 60 is dying from this
We need to be isolating those over 60 or those with immunodeficiencies
The rest need to keep working to keep the economy going. It's going to be 18 months before a vaccine. We can't just shut the world down for a year and a half.
This is a marathon, not a sprint
I'm ready to get sick with this thing. Given my vocation, my duty, it's pretty much a given.
But I'm 50 years old and reasonably healthy, I'll be fine.
My parents are 75 and 77 years old. We've pretty much sealed them up. I won't get to see them for potentially a very long time. They've got two caregivers that barely see anyone else. They will be using precautions. It's unfortunate but they have cable and internet and will be quite busy yelling at the TV or computer as Biden and Trump rant at each other.
When they're vaccinated, we can return to some semblance of normality with them
The vast, vast majority of people under 50 have mild symptoms not much different from a cold. Kids don't even generally show symptoms. Why should we be cancelling classes?
You're drawing your numbers from the stats on the Diamond Princess though, which you should know still has about 300 active cases roughly- too many to make a final conclusion now even in spite of the other problems with using this. This assumes that the same amount of care given to those on the cruise ship will be given to everyone nationwide, which isn't going to happen because hospitals will become overburdened and because the U.S.'s response has been slowed. You already see this with South Korea, Italy, Germany, France, and many other countries.
I've acknowledged that more could die.
Besides, even though thew disease predominantly affects older people, this is not a justification to just take minimal precautions. We don't know if the death stats are truly reflective of reality, and no real idea if other age demographics die from this more than what's being counted. There have been autopsies done on people believed to have died from the flu when in reality it was Covid-19. And if you don't close down schools you're just opening up more avenues for those who are old to get sick from.
But based on the numbers right now, it looks like 1% for a population that was skewed older than the general population for most advanced countries
So we close the world for 18 months?
What other choice do we honestly have? There's more to the virus than death, as it can permanently scar the lungs and debilitate people for weeks or months. Would you rather everyone else remain exposed, get infected, and have at least 10% of the population with lung damage?