Message from @Soup Can Sam
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like cosby said, UBI is the future but americans aren't ready for it yet
Political winds shift pretty quickly.
Get used to it
Pioneers like trump are guiding us in the right direction.
Oh dear...
I mean the easiest way to fix that is make the qualifications for UBI be natural born or naturalized for more than X years
Did you just say "Universal Basic Income?
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I believe you should work up the ladder to achieve success and earn more money. Universal income kinda eliminates that purpose doesnt it?
I don't need the government to become my daddy. We should be able to be independently sufficient in order to make due pay possible.
UBI covers your most basic needs, not success
People cant usually achieve success when they're starving or homeless
They're still very well able to
And the conditions weren't present back then for anything of the sort to happen
We still have to have a good safety net for them
Job automation is another consideration for UBI
@Dr.Cosby Also, 10% VAT isn't that much. Remember, Europe pays 20% VAT
10% is nothing
Also, welfare has the problem that is causes people on welfare to fear finding a job (since they're scared that they'll be worse off by finding a job as that welfare will be taken)
Right but UBI woudn't cut off because you got a job
Why a resentment among the working class?
Because if you're working and not even better off than somebody who isn't working, that would build resentment
GG @Soup Can Sam, you just advanced to level 5!
but if you're working hard, *you will be better off than them*
also welfare is typically *less remuneration than even a minimum wage job*
and that is *by design*
to ensure incentives are aligned properly
OK say you're getting 1000 a month from UBI but if you started a part time minimum wage job, and I'm talking a state with high minimum wage like maryland at 10.10 and lets be generous and say you get around 30 hours a week. You're working and only making about 212 dollars more a month than the person sitting on their ass doing nothing.
Now if you apply that to the federal minimum wage you'd need to work at minimum wage almost full time in order to break a thousand a month
To make the same amount of money as somebody literally doing nothing
So you would continue giving out UBI to the person with the job to prevent that from happening
i live in a country where the minimum wage is around $22/hr lmao
and welfare is anywhere between $4-8/hr
UBI wouldnt get us to $22/hr
so in our case, the incentives are aligned properly
but also
i thought you meant *welfare* payments
not UBI
australia does not have a population of 330 million
millions of illegals who take jobs for way less than the minimum wage are NOT going to australia