Message from @Soup Can Sam

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2019-09-12 16:19:30 UTC  

Better opportunity. Help their family in their native country

2019-09-12 16:19:33 UTC  

There are all sorts of reasons people come to America

2019-09-12 16:19:37 UTC  

Ok, sure

2019-09-12 16:19:40 UTC  

$1000/month would already

2019-09-12 16:19:46 UTC  

make a lot of people happy

2019-09-12 16:19:55 UTC  

At would a UBI hurt that

2019-09-12 16:19:59 UTC  

?

2019-09-12 16:20:10 UTC  

The whole point of Yang's UBI is to stimulate OUR economy

2019-09-12 16:20:24 UTC  

but instead you're going to have it hemorrhaging toward other's economy

2019-09-12 16:20:42 UTC  

Countries that were reliant on the US Dollar now becomes heavily reliant on the US dollars now

2019-09-12 16:21:05 UTC  

Why

2019-09-12 16:21:21 UTC  

Explain the mechanism behind why that would happen please

2019-09-12 16:22:14 UTC  

Are you suggesting vast number of people take their UBI money and send it to friend or family in foreign countries?

2019-09-12 16:27:21 UTC  

Or just foreign consumer spending?

2019-09-12 17:29:21 UTC  

UBI is too radical for the US govt

2019-09-12 17:29:38 UTC  

like that shit will quickly get shutdown at congress

2019-09-12 17:30:33 UTC  

like cosby said, UBI is the future but americans aren't ready for it yet

2019-09-12 17:47:27 UTC  

Political winds shift pretty quickly.

2019-09-12 19:58:36 UTC  

Get used to it

2019-09-12 19:59:08 UTC  

Pioneers like trump are guiding us in the right direction.

2019-09-12 20:00:52 UTC  

Oh dear...

2019-09-12 20:03:48 UTC  

I mean the easiest way to fix that is make the qualifications for UBI be natural born or naturalized for more than X years

2019-09-12 20:04:13 UTC  

Did you just say "Universal Basic Income?

2019-09-12 20:05:15 UTC  

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2019-09-12 20:05:24 UTC  

I believe you should work up the ladder to achieve success and earn more money. Universal income kinda eliminates that purpose doesnt it?

2019-09-12 20:06:18 UTC  

I don't need the government to become my daddy. We should be able to be independently sufficient in order to make due pay possible.

2019-09-12 20:30:41 UTC  

UBI covers your most basic needs, not success

2019-09-12 20:54:13 UTC  

People cant usually achieve success when they're starving or homeless

2019-09-12 20:56:09 UTC  

They're still very well able to

2019-09-12 20:56:33 UTC  

And the conditions weren't present back then for anything of the sort to happen

2019-09-12 20:56:49 UTC  

We still have to have a good safety net for them

2019-09-12 21:06:54 UTC  

Job automation is another consideration for UBI

2019-09-13 14:41:12 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Also, 10% VAT isn't that much. Remember, Europe pays 20% VAT

2019-09-13 14:41:17 UTC  

10% is nothing

2019-09-13 14:42:16 UTC  

Also, welfare has the problem that is causes people on welfare to fear finding a job (since they're scared that they'll be worse off by finding a job as that welfare will be taken)

2019-09-13 15:39:03 UTC  

Right but UBI woudn't cut off because you got a job

2019-09-13 15:39:18 UTC  

That would just create a resentment among the working class and ultimately fail

2019-09-13 22:25:23 UTC  

Why a resentment among the working class?

2019-09-13 23:31:57 UTC  

Because if you're working and not even better off than somebody who isn't working, that would build resentment

2019-09-13 23:31:57 UTC  

GG @Soup Can Sam, you just advanced to level 5!

2019-09-14 01:21:48 UTC  

but if you're working hard, *you will be better off than them*