Shit then fuck me

I have an opinon on capital gains tax

fuck the poor

thats what i should do right?

So which were class traitors, the nobles who wanted to give more power to the king, or give more power to the regional assemblies

Like if you're a slave, and you fight for the maintenance of slavery, you're a class traitor against the enslaved classes

Here’s a different question- who in the French Revolution was NOT a class traitor

In the same way if you're a noble fighting for an end to feudal and semi-feudal conceptions of property and government, you are harming the class you're a part of

What if they were doing that because they felt it was their best chance to maintain power?

@Platinum Spark Nobles supporting the maintenance of the aristocracy, and business owners, merchants, and non-noble land owners trying to destroy the aristocracy and replace it with some type of democratic process

It’s just the whole French Revolution was WAY more complex than you’re making it out to be

Sure

Really complex

You can become a class traitor with the expectation that you'll be rewarded

everyone wanted power

Is being a class traitor a problem?

The maintainence of the aristocracy- does trying to give more power to the king count as maintainence of the aristocracy?

Not necessarily

I think bourgeois class traitors like Engels are pretty neat

The merchants and business owners were not trying to destroy the aristocracy, they were trying to buy into it

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*new money*

They were staunch defenders of the aristocracy in many cases

Yeah; and they were largely richer than the aristocracy

But they didn't have power or prestige

Because they controlled like, shipping and commercial enterprises, rather than the agriculture that used to make money 200 years prior

Then when things erupted into revolutionary violence, why did the vast majority of merchants and business owners support the establishment of the democratic republic? @Platinum Spark

Anyone interested in getting into it, check out Revolutions by Mike Duncan

@fuck12moredeadcops when violence first erupted? No

They did not

The first violence was grain riots

But they didn't resist things like the National Constituent Assembly abolishing what was left of feudalism in the country

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Known as the day of the tiles

That was way way way later you’re talking about

You’ve got to go back at least to the calling of the Estates General

It’s like talking about the American Revolution and fast forwarding to writing the constitution

It was before the Declaration of the Rights of Man or the drafting of the first constitution, it is much more like talking about the American Revolution and beginning with the Declaration of Independence.

No not at all

You’re missing the entire setup

And the start of the violence