Message from @NewRogernomics

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2020-01-08 05:25:48 UTC  

That was literally the 1970s through to the 2000s. Still continues as well. Just shock therapy is less pushed these days.

2020-01-08 05:26:33 UTC  

the neolibs and neocons are very 'right' of Lefists and Progressives, but they aren't the same thing

2020-01-08 05:26:35 UTC  

And mass privatization is also their baby.

2020-01-08 05:27:23 UTC  

As are private armies like Blackwater or "Academia" as they call themselves now.

2020-01-08 05:28:50 UTC  

They formed a tight alliance of convenience over the Iraq and Afghanistan war, and are more than happy to plunge us into Iran.

2020-01-08 05:30:50 UTC  

Granted that there are still neo liberal dissidents, and they aren't as well polished as traditional neo libs.

2020-01-08 05:31:52 UTC  

But if you look at a lot of what they have done domestically, it falls into some general neo liberal policy aims.

2020-01-08 05:34:30 UTC  

the neolibs are against the china trade war and tariffs, the situation with canada, SALT deduction removal

2020-01-08 05:35:16 UTC  

But they are also supportive of unilateral wars that help them profit in other countries.

2020-01-08 05:35:16 UTC  

there really isnt that much trump has done domestically, or at all outside of huge major goofs

2020-01-08 05:35:47 UTC  

nah the main neolib foreign policy is the mistaken belief america can replicate itself in other countries and perserving the global liberal trade order

2020-01-08 05:35:51 UTC  

trump is 100% against that

2020-01-08 05:36:23 UTC  

They hate Trump still, but that doesn't mean they won't take a major feast like a war in Iran.

2020-01-08 05:36:37 UTC  

the main neolib is against it, Richard Haass

2020-01-08 05:36:55 UTC  

they aren't that stupid

2020-01-08 05:37:18 UTC  

bombing iran is what the neocons want

2020-01-08 05:38:33 UTC  

Who isn't even part of the neo liberal faction that don't honestly care, as long as they make a quick buck.

2020-01-08 05:40:30 UTC  

```Richard Haass worked for Secretary of State Colin Powell in the Bush administration and was Director of Policy Planning for the US State Department from 2001-2003 during the lead-up to the Iraq war. Haass has said he was 60 percent against the Iraq war.[6]```

2020-01-08 05:41:28 UTC  

Which doesn't make him the sort of pro-war neo liberal faction that Trump is fauning to.

2020-01-08 05:44:39 UTC  

Honestly kill Americans then it's fair game in my books. Same way if you kill a family member. I don't understand why Dems let Iran push us around for years and let the situation get to this point. This could've been handled forever ago but Obama had 0 stones when going about foreign policy.

2020-01-08 05:52:49 UTC  

For the same reason Trump didn't go to war with NK in his first 90 days, it will be a mess that might hurt his political career. No one likes to be President who loses a war or makes a costly one. However, Trump's overconfidence might push him into making that mistake with Iran.

2020-01-08 05:59:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098339961798676/664347398713114655/ENuk4IHWwAEFUNL.jpg

2020-01-08 06:07:11 UTC  

I mean Iran is clearly wanting to provoke America to attack to claim the U.S is trying to be imperialistic

2020-01-08 06:07:49 UTC  

starve their people of food and medicine ends up with shit like this

2020-01-08 06:07:59 UTC  

Hard to do so

2020-01-08 06:08:35 UTC  

no, that's what we've been doing. US sanctions are doing that, killing people.

2020-01-08 06:08:44 UTC  

They share a waterway with Russia.

2020-01-08 06:10:35 UTC  

Pompeo has been trying to get a war with Iran going as long as he's been there

2020-01-08 06:10:55 UTC  

he wanted war when the drone was shot down and the oil field attacks. all he could talk about until Ukraine stuff

2020-01-08 06:11:23 UTC  

obviously Bolton's tenure meant another Iran hawk, etc

2020-01-08 06:11:39 UTC  

Not to mention Iran has consolidated it's power. They have their people's support

2020-01-08 06:11:44 UTC  

A minority blaming the country he lives in <:thonk:583236646858653696>

2020-01-08 06:12:24 UTC  

I'm blaming the hijacked leadership of my country, we have fallen into a manipulation by foreign powers

2020-01-08 06:12:50 UTC  

Getting the US sucked into another war is what America's enemies want

2020-01-08 06:17:02 UTC  

War isn't good stuff, especially nowadays I think. Because of how utterly pointless it really seems. When we have the resources to elevate humanity (and save the Earth), but instead we hoard them and wage war...pretty sick.

2020-01-08 06:18:18 UTC  

I wonder what this plane crash(?) is going to do to the situation

2020-01-08 06:18:27 UTC  

It sure seems like quite the coincidence

2020-01-08 06:19:01 UTC  

powers at be like pissing on Ukraine's foot

2020-01-08 06:19:02 UTC  

scared

2020-01-08 06:19:39 UTC  

If it's actually an accident, I think it could actually de-escalate things - but that line of thinking is overly optimistic

2020-01-08 06:20:51 UTC  

upgraded car bomb, crash commercial planes into suburbs