Message from @wuzamarine

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2020-02-14 04:18:09 UTC  

Well just as youd say a human cell isnt a human being

2020-02-14 04:18:22 UTC  

Like a nerve cell is a part of a human

2020-02-14 04:18:22 UTC  

GG @Sauropithicus, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-02-14 04:18:29 UTC  

more or less, sure.

2020-02-14 04:18:40 UTC  

But a zygote is an actual independent human

2020-02-14 04:18:46 UTC  

sperm contains half of the person's dna

2020-02-14 04:18:48 UTC  

or at least will become one, depending on your view

2020-02-14 04:19:17 UTC  

The egg is female at first and the sperm is male, when the sperm enters the egg there is a little mini game known as 8 ball and a decision is made on whether the chromosomes will be in favor of producing a male embryo of a female.

2020-02-14 04:19:34 UTC  

wow that was a description

2020-02-14 04:19:50 UTC  

@wuzamarine So when is it like moral to abort

2020-02-14 04:20:00 UTC  

you gave like a super vague answer I feel

2020-02-14 04:20:18 UTC  

@Sauropithicus It can become one if it is carried to term and born with some amount of viability. Do we do a census that includes fetuses? No. Neither does the medical community consider a pregnant woman a mother.

2020-02-14 04:20:31 UTC  

@Sauropithicus A zygote has a 'chance' to be a human. Only after a high risk proceedure.
You don't torture somebody over a chance.

2020-02-14 04:20:36 UTC  

Ok

2020-02-14 04:20:43 UTC  

When is it ok to abort

2020-02-14 04:20:57 UTC  

4 weeks

2020-02-14 04:21:01 UTC  

why

2020-02-14 04:21:06 UTC  

cognative awareness

2020-02-14 04:21:13 UTC  

How do we know

2020-02-14 04:21:25 UTC  

Also

2020-02-14 04:21:25 UTC  

when the kid discovers their toes

2020-02-14 04:21:31 UTC  

How is that not totally arbitrary

2020-02-14 04:21:42 UTC  

Thats when they become aware

2020-02-14 04:22:03 UTC  

Thats when there is a memory to lose

2020-02-14 04:22:08 UTC  

And?

2020-02-14 04:22:13 UTC  

That's still arbitrary

2020-02-14 04:22:17 UTC  

you have no reasoning for it

2020-02-14 04:22:19 UTC  

Well 4 weeks seems very specific

2020-02-14 04:22:28 UTC  

Why not after or before 4 weeks?

2020-02-14 04:22:41 UTC  

because of brain function

2020-02-14 04:22:47 UTC  

And why is cognative *awareness* the line of morality

2020-02-14 04:23:00 UTC  

that's for him to answer

2020-02-14 04:23:00 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-02-14 04:23:01 UTC  

Because thats after cognative awareness kicks in.
You're just not catching this.

2020-02-14 04:23:07 UTC  

Who cares?

2020-02-14 04:23:08 UTC  

No I get that

2020-02-14 04:23:13 UTC  

Who cares about cognitive awareness?

2020-02-14 04:23:14 UTC  

@Sauropithicus formation of a functioning nervous system and organs, brain activity, heartbeat. The vast majority of abortions are done before any of that. I would argue for exceptions if the Festus is severely defected.

2020-02-14 04:23:16 UTC  

Why does that matter?

2020-02-14 04:23:32 UTC  

Why is cognative awareness significant

2020-02-14 04:23:36 UTC  

You said memory?