Message from @wuzamarine
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Thats a gamete, not even a zygote
I think thats taking it too far m8
sperm isn't even its own thing
It is lol, it has human dna
mother nature installs a safety switch for when things go horribly wrong, which they did for eons.
4 weeks is when you discover your toes and 4 wks after birth is when cognative awareness kicks in.
That's when it would be cruel.
Its literally not a human being unless it has the independent DNA of both of its parents
Human DNA how does that not = human?
Because it's not independent of its parents
Well just as youd say a human cell isnt a human being
Like a nerve cell is a part of a human
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more or less, sure.
But a zygote is an actual independent human
sperm contains half of the person's dna
or at least will become one, depending on your view
The egg is female at first and the sperm is male, when the sperm enters the egg there is a little mini game known as 8 ball and a decision is made on whether the chromosomes will be in favor of producing a male embryo of a female.
wow that was a description
@wuzamarine So when is it like moral to abort
you gave like a super vague answer I feel
@Sauropithicus It can become one if it is carried to term and born with some amount of viability. Do we do a census that includes fetuses? No. Neither does the medical community consider a pregnant woman a mother.
@Sauropithicus A zygote has a 'chance' to be a human. Only after a high risk proceedure.
You don't torture somebody over a chance.
Ok
When is it ok to abort
4 weeks
why
cognative awareness
How do we know
Also
when the kid discovers their toes
How is that not totally arbitrary
Thats when they become aware
Thats when there is a memory to lose
And?
That's still arbitrary
you have no reasoning for it
Well 4 weeks seems very specific
Why not after or before 4 weeks?
because of brain function
And why is cognative *awareness* the line of morality
that's for him to answer
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