Message from @wuzamarine

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2020-02-14 04:17:15 UTC  

Thats a gamete, not even a zygote

2020-02-14 04:17:22 UTC  

I think thats taking it too far m8

2020-02-14 04:17:28 UTC  

sperm isn't even its own thing

2020-02-14 04:17:28 UTC  

It is lol, it has human dna

2020-02-14 04:17:32 UTC  

mother nature installs a safety switch for when things go horribly wrong, which they did for eons.
4 weeks is when you discover your toes and 4 wks after birth is when cognative awareness kicks in.
That's when it would be cruel.

2020-02-14 04:17:42 UTC  

Its literally not a human being unless it has the independent DNA of both of its parents

2020-02-14 04:17:51 UTC  

Human DNA how does that not = human?

2020-02-14 04:18:06 UTC  

Because it's not independent of its parents

2020-02-14 04:18:09 UTC  

Well just as youd say a human cell isnt a human being

2020-02-14 04:18:22 UTC  

Like a nerve cell is a part of a human

2020-02-14 04:18:22 UTC  

GG @Sauropithicus, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-02-14 04:18:29 UTC  

more or less, sure.

2020-02-14 04:18:40 UTC  

But a zygote is an actual independent human

2020-02-14 04:18:46 UTC  

sperm contains half of the person's dna

2020-02-14 04:18:48 UTC  

or at least will become one, depending on your view

2020-02-14 04:19:17 UTC  

The egg is female at first and the sperm is male, when the sperm enters the egg there is a little mini game known as 8 ball and a decision is made on whether the chromosomes will be in favor of producing a male embryo of a female.

2020-02-14 04:19:34 UTC  

wow that was a description

2020-02-14 04:19:50 UTC  

@wuzamarine So when is it like moral to abort

2020-02-14 04:20:00 UTC  

you gave like a super vague answer I feel

2020-02-14 04:20:18 UTC  

@Sauropithicus It can become one if it is carried to term and born with some amount of viability. Do we do a census that includes fetuses? No. Neither does the medical community consider a pregnant woman a mother.

2020-02-14 04:20:31 UTC  

@Sauropithicus A zygote has a 'chance' to be a human. Only after a high risk proceedure.
You don't torture somebody over a chance.

2020-02-14 04:20:36 UTC  

Ok

2020-02-14 04:20:43 UTC  

When is it ok to abort

2020-02-14 04:20:57 UTC  

4 weeks

2020-02-14 04:21:01 UTC  

why

2020-02-14 04:21:06 UTC  

cognative awareness

2020-02-14 04:21:13 UTC  

How do we know

2020-02-14 04:21:25 UTC  

Also

2020-02-14 04:21:25 UTC  

when the kid discovers their toes

2020-02-14 04:21:31 UTC  

How is that not totally arbitrary

2020-02-14 04:21:42 UTC  

Thats when they become aware

2020-02-14 04:22:03 UTC  

Thats when there is a memory to lose

2020-02-14 04:22:08 UTC  

And?

2020-02-14 04:22:13 UTC  

That's still arbitrary

2020-02-14 04:22:17 UTC  

you have no reasoning for it

2020-02-14 04:22:19 UTC  

Well 4 weeks seems very specific

2020-02-14 04:22:28 UTC  

Why not after or before 4 weeks?

2020-02-14 04:22:41 UTC  

because of brain function

2020-02-14 04:22:47 UTC  

And why is cognative *awareness* the line of morality

2020-02-14 04:23:00 UTC  

that's for him to answer

2020-02-14 04:23:00 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 5!