you gave like a super vague answer I feel

@Sauropithicus It can become one if it is carried to term and born with some amount of viability. Do we do a census that includes fetuses? No. Neither does the medical community consider a pregnant woman a mother.

@Sauropithicus A zygote has a 'chance' to be a human. Only after a high risk proceedure.
You don't torture somebody over a chance.

Ok

When is it ok to abort

4 weeks

why

cognative awareness

How do we know

Also

when the kid discovers their toes

How is that not totally arbitrary

Thats when they become aware

Thats when there is a memory to lose

And?

That's still arbitrary

you have no reasoning for it

Well 4 weeks seems very specific

Why not after or before 4 weeks?

because of brain function

And why is cognative *awareness* the line of morality

that's for him to answer

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Because thats after cognative awareness kicks in.
You're just not catching this.

Who cares?

No I get that

Who cares about cognitive awareness?

@Sauropithicus formation of a functioning nervous system and organs, brain activity, heartbeat. The vast majority of abortions are done before any of that. I would argue for exceptions if the Festus is severely defected.

Why does that matter?

Why is cognative awareness significant

You said memory?

Why does that matter at all?

@Sauropithicus Morals have nothing to do with it. It is a clinical fact.
Morals change by the zip code and all moral laws backfire.

Why is it only not ok to abort after it has memory, not that I think we can accurately measure when a zygote gains sentience lol

Why does cognitive awareness matter?

Morals change by zipcode?

Laws *

I'm talking about morality not legality

Two separate concepts

is not congnitive awareness what makes us human?

@Sauropithicus
Moral laws/blue laws are pure tyranny.