Message from @wuzamarine

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2020-02-14 04:20:36 UTC  

Ok

2020-02-14 04:20:43 UTC  

When is it ok to abort

2020-02-14 04:20:57 UTC  

4 weeks

2020-02-14 04:21:01 UTC  

why

2020-02-14 04:21:06 UTC  

cognative awareness

2020-02-14 04:21:13 UTC  

How do we know

2020-02-14 04:21:25 UTC  

Also

2020-02-14 04:21:25 UTC  

when the kid discovers their toes

2020-02-14 04:21:31 UTC  

How is that not totally arbitrary

2020-02-14 04:21:42 UTC  

Thats when they become aware

2020-02-14 04:22:03 UTC  

Thats when there is a memory to lose

2020-02-14 04:22:08 UTC  

And?

2020-02-14 04:22:13 UTC  

That's still arbitrary

2020-02-14 04:22:17 UTC  

you have no reasoning for it

2020-02-14 04:22:19 UTC  

Well 4 weeks seems very specific

2020-02-14 04:22:28 UTC  

Why not after or before 4 weeks?

2020-02-14 04:22:41 UTC  

because of brain function

2020-02-14 04:22:47 UTC  

And why is cognative *awareness* the line of morality

2020-02-14 04:23:00 UTC  

that's for him to answer

2020-02-14 04:23:00 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-02-14 04:23:01 UTC  

Because thats after cognative awareness kicks in.
You're just not catching this.

2020-02-14 04:23:07 UTC  

Who cares?

2020-02-14 04:23:08 UTC  

No I get that

2020-02-14 04:23:13 UTC  

Who cares about cognitive awareness?

2020-02-14 04:23:14 UTC  

@Sauropithicus formation of a functioning nervous system and organs, brain activity, heartbeat. The vast majority of abortions are done before any of that. I would argue for exceptions if the Festus is severely defected.

2020-02-14 04:23:16 UTC  

Why does that matter?

2020-02-14 04:23:32 UTC  

Why is cognative awareness significant

2020-02-14 04:23:36 UTC  

You said memory?

2020-02-14 04:23:42 UTC  

Why does that matter at all?

2020-02-14 04:23:52 UTC  

@Sauropithicus Morals have nothing to do with it. It is a clinical fact.
Morals change by the zip code and all moral laws backfire.

2020-02-14 04:24:08 UTC  

Why is it only not ok to abort after it has memory, not that I think we can accurately measure when a zygote gains sentience lol

2020-02-14 04:24:12 UTC  

Why does cognitive awareness matter?

2020-02-14 04:24:16 UTC  

Morals change by zipcode?

2020-02-14 04:24:19 UTC  

Laws *

2020-02-14 04:24:25 UTC  

I'm talking about morality not legality

2020-02-14 04:24:29 UTC  

Two separate concepts

2020-02-14 04:24:45 UTC  

is not congnitive awareness what makes us human?

2020-02-14 04:24:45 UTC  

@Sauropithicus
Moral laws/blue laws are pure tyranny.

2020-02-14 04:24:59 UTC  

Also its not a clinical fact that babies just magically gain sentience or awareness at 4 weeks on the dot

2020-02-14 04:25:04 UTC  

why does cognitive awareness matter? @wuzamarine

2020-02-14 04:25:09 UTC  

Why does that make it human or not?