Message from @Deleted User
Discord ID: 677757626905395210
What gives them the right to own it in the first place?
Thats what I just asked you
what gives you the right to *control a part of industry* is if you properly obtain and operate it
property rights are based but owning industry is different because it affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't
Now that you have the jacket, no one else can have the jacket
works the same way
youve deprived the community of a jacket
sounds like you just dont believe in the validity of property rights
what?
I'm talking about industry not property rights
"affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't"
yes
having private property adversely affects the community in a similar way
owning industry affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't
no it doesn't
not at all
possessing something deprives it of the community
industry supplies things to people and is the way people get the things they need
private property is mostly a product of industry
possessing anything necessarily deprives the community of its ownership
but industry is different because it supplies people with that stuff in the first place
so it necessarily affects more people than one's individual property
GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 7!
affects MORE people, but that doesnt change the principle of it
If you own a jacket, you're depriving the community of a jacket
Thus, you're depriving the community of its ability to keep itself warm
it does effect the princple of it because you can produce your own private property and it can literally affect no one
Sure, thats on a smaller scale than the MEANS OF PRODUCTION but I think the principle is at least similar if not the same
industry necessarily affects everyone
in the community
private property does nothing of the sort
if someone uses private property against the interests of the people than they should have it confiscated or more should happen to them
but you have a right to private property in a different way than you have a right to industry because the industry necessarily affects others
industry is basically in the public realm whether or not it's owned by private individuals, that's not the case with private property in every case
private property affects the community
Once again, if you own anything, you're depriving the community of that
Not if you produce it yourself
no, still deprivation
you arent letting the community have it
that's not deprivation that's witholding your product from others