many people might not want walmart or target but it'll be there anyways because in reality poor people are factored out of that equation

Also, if the company is committing violence, i think its not only just, but proper that the community take violent action against them

violence is ok because they don't have a right to the land if they're not contributing to the common welfare

It's not about if the company is committing violence

it could be that, but it's more than that

ok so what gives you the right to property is whether or not you contribute to the common good?

If someone is crippled are they not allowed to own property?

What gives them the right to own it in the first place?

Thats what I just asked you

what gives you the right to *control a part of industry* is if you properly obtain and operate it

property rights are based but owning industry is different because it affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't

Now that you have the jacket, no one else can have the jacket

works the same way

youve deprived the community of a jacket

sounds like you just dont believe in the validity of property rights

what?

I'm talking about industry not property rights

"affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't"

yes

having private property adversely affects the community in a similar way

owning industry affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't

no it doesn't

not at all

possessing something deprives it of the community

industry supplies things to people and is the way people get the things they need

private property is mostly a product of industry

possessing anything necessarily deprives the community of its ownership

not if there's enough of that resource lol

but industry is different because it supplies people with that stuff in the first place

so it necessarily affects more people than one's individual property

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 7!

affects MORE people, but that doesnt change the principle of it

If you own a jacket, you're depriving the community of a jacket

Thus, you're depriving the community of its ability to keep itself warm

it does effect the princple of it because you can produce your own private property and it can literally affect no one

Sure, thats on a smaller scale than the MEANS OF PRODUCTION but I think the principle is at least similar if not the same

industry necessarily affects everyone

in the community

private property does nothing of the sort

if someone uses private property against the interests of the people than they should have it confiscated or more should happen to them

but you have a right to private property in a different way than you have a right to industry because the industry necessarily affects others