Message from @Deleted User

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2020-02-14 05:56:56 UTC  

all you do with capitalism is remove the power of the people to forcibly remove people that aren't contributing to the common good

2020-02-14 05:57:04 UTC  

Its a system focused on service

2020-02-14 05:57:12 UTC  

They can not pay those people

2020-02-14 05:57:18 UTC  

Id say thats pretty forceful

2020-02-14 05:57:29 UTC  

It isn't though

2020-02-14 05:57:31 UTC  

not at all

2020-02-14 05:57:37 UTC  

The refusal to purchase a company's products

2020-02-14 05:57:56 UTC  

forceful is going to the place and kicking them out

2020-02-14 05:58:38 UTC  

not paying for products doesn't do anything if other factors make not paying them wishful thinking.

2020-02-14 05:58:54 UTC  

Why is violence ok if the company isn't being violent

2020-02-14 05:59:07 UTC  

many people might not want walmart or target but it'll be there anyways because in reality poor people are factored out of that equation

2020-02-14 05:59:19 UTC  

Also, if the company is committing violence, i think its not only just, but proper that the community take violent action against them

2020-02-14 05:59:25 UTC  

violence is ok because they don't have a right to the land if they're not contributing to the common welfare

2020-02-14 05:59:41 UTC  

It's not about if the company is committing violence

2020-02-14 05:59:50 UTC  

it could be that, but it's more than that

2020-02-14 06:00:00 UTC  

ok so what gives you the right to property is whether or not you contribute to the common good?

2020-02-14 06:00:11 UTC  

If someone is crippled are they not allowed to own property?

2020-02-14 06:01:03 UTC  

What gives them the right to own it in the first place?

2020-02-14 06:01:11 UTC  

Thats what I just asked you

2020-02-14 06:02:03 UTC  

what gives you the right to *control a part of industry* is if you properly obtain and operate it

2020-02-14 06:02:45 UTC  

property rights are based but owning industry is different because it affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't

2020-02-14 06:03:27 UTC  

Now that you have the jacket, no one else can have the jacket

2020-02-14 06:03:30 UTC  

works the same way

2020-02-14 06:03:38 UTC  

youve deprived the community of a jacket

2020-02-14 06:03:56 UTC  

sounds like you just dont believe in the validity of property rights

2020-02-14 06:04:29 UTC  

what?

2020-02-14 06:04:34 UTC  

I'm talking about industry not property rights

2020-02-14 06:05:01 UTC  

"affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't"

2020-02-14 06:05:09 UTC  

yes

2020-02-14 06:05:17 UTC  

having private property adversely affects the community in a similar way

2020-02-14 06:05:22 UTC  

owning industry affects other people in a way having private property wouldn't

2020-02-14 06:05:26 UTC  

no it doesn't

2020-02-14 06:05:32 UTC  

not at all

2020-02-14 06:05:48 UTC  

possessing something deprives it of the community

2020-02-14 06:05:52 UTC  

industry supplies things to people and is the way people get the things they need

2020-02-14 06:06:06 UTC  

private property is mostly a product of industry

2020-02-14 06:06:36 UTC  

possessing anything necessarily deprives the community of its ownership

2020-02-14 06:06:50 UTC  

not if there's enough of that resource lol

2020-02-14 06:07:17 UTC  

but industry is different because it supplies people with that stuff in the first place

2020-02-14 06:08:12 UTC  

so it necessarily affects more people than one's individual property

2020-02-14 06:08:12 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 7!