Message from @Quintem
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respectful debate or immature ad hominems
pick one
ah so youre admitting to being biased against objective analysis because you got insulted. ngaw snowflake
that analysis had literally no ad homs in it brother
its funny how you can engage with the ad homs
but then not the analysis
that also says a lot about you
@chuckayy people on a politics server dont change their views
this is strictly for masochism
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@Green Syndicalism the video aldo isnt dumb just cus u disagree with it
did you even read my rebuttal
Because the video ignores the fact that you cant accumulate capital in the safe way that you can in western society without a strong government and its institutions to not only provide the public infrastructure you use to generate the capital (a network of roads amongst all other public utilities for cheap prices and at a relatively reliable supply), but also the prerequisites for a prosperous economy (protections afforded to you by the law/police and a healthcare system which keeps the populace relatively "healthy" and hence productive.) If you benefit from this set-up more than others did, you ought to pay a higher proportion of your income for at least these two reasons:
a) The government's purpose is utilitarian in nature, but your excess income has a diminishing return to you, but not for those less advantaged. Its also simply better for the economy *and the community as a whole* to not squeeze the pockets of those on the bottom rung (the poorer the community, the more crime you'll get).
b) Not everyone's environmental context is the same, your's just happened to be such that you were in a position to benefit more from the environment that society set up for you to utilise, therefore you owe more to society than others do on a proportional basis.
ive already tagged you in this, you have no response. wouldn't expect anything less tbh
so no, just because i disagree with that video, doesnt make it dumb. but the fact it ignores so many basic tenets of reality to make an oversimplified, ignorant statement on the morality of taxation? yes, thats dumb as fuck
Again......... wall of text is not an argument. Notice how it got awkward and no one replied? Its becuase no one read it. Good job on getting ignored if that is your ultimate goal
bait ^
@Solid Sar he wonders why we think he's the dumbest guy in the server
Lol
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My meetus
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@Green Syndicalism What destructive power you have lol
hi
Shut
No one replies to green syndicalism because they don't want to get destroyed. Fragile egos don't make great debate candidates.
I don't agree with @Green Syndicalism on some stuff, but he undeniably comes off as a wrecking ball
That's him crushing the greedy capitalists
Imagine not being capitalist when the strongest nation on earth with the highest GDP is Capitalist
Lol see I had the capitalist tag before too but it was confusing people so I had to get rid of it. I think unbridled capitalism is a recipe for disaster. But there parts of capitalism that are good to have, I think
I think some amount of capitalism is all but necessary - so it should be a given
ive studied a dozen different models of socialism, and theres only one that i found compelling
the Leland Stauber proposal
everything else has obvious, fatal flaws
I’ve found everything but capitalism to have fatal flaws
Granted I don’t burry myself in economic systems
i do rip
And capitalism is by no means perfect
What
But it’s clearly doing notably better than everything else
hardly anything else has been tried
Yeah