Message from @chuckayy

Discord ID: 609202093185695744


2019-08-09 01:45:08 UTC  

i said *vested interests* and proven fallaciousness

2019-08-09 01:45:26 UTC  

you can have vested interests but be promoting truthful argumentation

2019-08-09 01:45:39 UTC  

I am too biased to point out the facts in the video

2019-08-09 01:45:45 UTC  

It was just interesting to watch

2019-08-09 01:45:55 UTC  

we're talking about the progressive taxation video

2019-08-09 01:45:57 UTC  

not the socialism one

2019-08-09 01:46:02 UTC  

but im sure thats just as bad

2019-08-09 01:46:17 UTC  

conversely you can have vested interest and be sharing something factual

2019-08-09 01:46:25 UTC  

i literally just said that

2019-08-09 01:46:28 UTC  

good

2019-08-09 01:46:34 UTC  

but in the case of pragerU

2019-08-09 01:46:37 UTC  

thats not what they do

2019-08-09 01:46:42 UTC  

bet

2019-08-09 01:46:52 UTC  

kk ill repost my essay

2019-08-09 01:47:00 UTC  

Because the video ignores the fact that you cant accumulate capital in the safe way that you can in western society without a strong government and its institutions to not only provide the public infrastructure you use to generate the capital (a network of roads amongst all other public utilities for cheap prices and at a relatively reliable supply), but also the prerequisites for a prosperous economy (protections afforded to you by the law/police and a healthcare system which keeps the populace relatively "healthy" and hence productive.) If you benefit from this set-up more than others did, you ought to pay a higher proportion of your income for at least these two reasons:
a) The government's purpose is utilitarian in nature, but your excess income has a diminishing return to you, but not for those less advantaged. Its also simply better for the economy to not squeeze the pockets of those on the bottom rung.
b) Not everyone's environmental context is the same, your's just happened to be such that you were in a position to benefit more from the environment that society set up for you to utilise, therefore you owe more to society than others do on a proportional basis.

2019-08-09 01:47:31 UTC  

ffs mee6 isnt letting me post the 2nd half

2019-08-09 01:50:28 UTC  

frankly comrade when you stoop to saying things such as “anyone who would have that opinion or share that info is an idiot” you’re really out of touch to then think the same people are going to sit there and engage you earnestly let alone read your essays

2019-08-09 01:50:35 UTC  

that’s not how you win respect

2019-08-09 01:50:38 UTC  

or arguments

2019-08-09 01:50:41 UTC  

<:milady:591248801189330944>

2019-08-09 01:51:37 UTC  

respectful debate or immature ad hominems

2019-08-09 01:51:39 UTC  

pick one

2019-08-09 01:53:55 UTC  

ah so youre admitting to being biased against objective analysis because you got insulted. ngaw snowflake
that analysis had literally no ad homs in it brother
its funny how you can engage with the ad homs
but then not the analysis
that also says a lot about you

2019-08-09 02:03:10 UTC  

@chuckayy people on a politics server dont change their views

2019-08-09 02:03:15 UTC  

this is strictly for masochism

2019-08-09 02:29:13 UTC  

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2019-08-09 07:14:37 UTC  

@Green Syndicalism the video aldo isnt dumb just cus u disagree with it

2019-08-09 07:15:58 UTC  

did you even read my rebuttal

2019-08-09 07:16:30 UTC  

Because the video ignores the fact that you cant accumulate capital in the safe way that you can in western society without a strong government and its institutions to not only provide the public infrastructure you use to generate the capital (a network of roads amongst all other public utilities for cheap prices and at a relatively reliable supply), but also the prerequisites for a prosperous economy (protections afforded to you by the law/police and a healthcare system which keeps the populace relatively "healthy" and hence productive.) If you benefit from this set-up more than others did, you ought to pay a higher proportion of your income for at least these two reasons:
a) The government's purpose is utilitarian in nature, but your excess income has a diminishing return to you, but not for those less advantaged. Its also simply better for the economy *and the community as a whole* to not squeeze the pockets of those on the bottom rung (the poorer the community, the more crime you'll get).
b) Not everyone's environmental context is the same, your's just happened to be such that you were in a position to benefit more from the environment that society set up for you to utilise, therefore you owe more to society than others do on a proportional basis.

2019-08-09 07:17:11 UTC  

ive already tagged you in this, you have no response. wouldn't expect anything less tbh

2019-08-09 07:23:11 UTC  

so no, just because i disagree with that video, doesnt make it dumb. but the fact it ignores so many basic tenets of reality to make an oversimplified, ignorant statement on the morality of taxation? yes, thats dumb as fuck

2019-08-09 08:15:47 UTC  

Again......... wall of text is not an argument. Notice how it got awkward and no one replied? Its becuase no one read it. Good job on getting ignored if that is your ultimate goal

2019-08-09 08:17:15 UTC  

bait ^

2019-08-09 08:22:50 UTC  

@Solid Sar he wonders why we think he's the dumbest guy in the server

2019-08-09 10:19:56 UTC  

Lol

2019-08-09 10:19:56 UTC  

GG @chuckayy, you just advanced to level 15!

2019-08-09 10:41:53 UTC  

<a:aYEET:535055828864991262>

2019-08-09 11:10:52 UTC  

My meetus

2019-08-09 11:15:32 UTC  

*fetus

2019-08-09 19:38:33 UTC  

@Green Syndicalism What destructive power you have lol

2019-08-09 19:55:08 UTC  

Anyone online?