Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2020-03-11 19:07:08 UTC  

I know you wouldn’t do it exactly the same, but you would remove the central bank, right? That’s really the difference that matters

2020-03-11 19:07:38 UTC  

You're using the NBER numbers, they're flawed. The paper goes back to 1880, which is not that far but it's pretty far considering the system pre that was effectively the same, and finds the results: shorter recovery times; less persistant; less severe pre fed (not even including the depression for the federal reserve).

2020-03-11 19:07:49 UTC  

> but you would remove the central bank, right?
Yes, but it's much more nuanced than that.

2020-03-11 19:10:32 UTC  

The 1800s is not my ideal because it wasn't exactly 'free banking', not regarding note issuing but regulations making the banking sector fragile, causing credit pyramiding.

2020-03-11 19:15:06 UTC  

And you think that this wouldn’t happen if you remove regulations or control from the situation?

2020-03-11 19:15:31 UTC  

The regulations I'm talking about in the 1800s? Yes, those issues would cease to exist.

2020-03-11 19:15:34 UTC  

That's my prime system.

2020-03-11 21:02:44 UTC  

And no central banking authority?

2020-03-11 21:03:29 UTC  

Would each bank have its own currency or would each have authority to issue US dollars?

2020-03-11 21:51:38 UTC  

No central banking authority, but I wouldn’t be so sure of independent currency issuance.

2020-03-12 04:03:15 UTC  

Is SINT still maintaining there won't be a recession?

2020-03-12 04:35:09 UTC  

We should tax income made working overtime less

2020-03-12 08:02:45 UTC  
2020-03-12 10:11:12 UTC  

> except any nation that does have central banking can manipulate your currency, so that’s fun
The treasury exists @Sophie

2020-03-12 13:35:12 UTC  

You. Sidisnotthere. SINT

2020-03-12 13:35:26 UTC  

Feel free to refer to me as DYM

2020-03-12 14:24:18 UTC  

Well I agree, there isn’t any sign of a recession.

2020-03-12 14:24:37 UTC  

Bear market.

2020-03-12 14:24:48 UTC  

That isn’t due to a recession, it’s due to virus fears

2020-03-12 14:24:56 UTC  

Haha

2020-03-12 14:25:04 UTC  

The recent jobless claims have fallen, which would not be expected if we were in a downturn

2020-03-12 14:25:04 UTC  

Adorable

2020-03-12 14:25:26 UTC  

Thanks, I actually understand how the economy processes.

2020-03-12 14:25:51 UTC  

A stock market falling doesn’t necessarily mean there is a recession; in this case it means investors are temporarily feeling bearish due to exogenous reasons.

2020-03-12 14:26:01 UTC  

However the economy doesn’t show any signs so far. Like I said the Feb job reports and this weeks jobless claims falling.

2020-03-12 22:02:43 UTC  

What will happen after the pandemic is gone? Will the normal economy go back or is that too late to invest?

2020-03-13 00:23:45 UTC  

All that you mention are lagging indicators SINT

2020-03-13 00:24:09 UTC  

I think Sophie and I will be proved right

2020-03-13 07:34:02 UTC  

The most reliable indicator of a recession, the yield curve inverting was already a thing more than a few months ago. The stock market is just the icing on the cake and the signature and the date for the clear signal that we'll be going into a recession. It's only inevitable.

Unless you mean to suggest that the Fed yield curve didn't actually predict the last 60 years worth of recessions consistently? @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

2020-03-13 08:09:49 UTC  

@Shockwave The yield curve isn’t a mechanism that predicts a recession, as in a recession will happen if it inverts - this isn’t true. It’s mainly a warning sign to act, if the FED lowers interest rates and takes action the impending “recession” will not come.

2020-03-13 08:23:13 UTC  

@Hollow Vagabond Back to normal

2020-03-13 08:33:54 UTC  

Okay, you're ripping a Ben Shapiro and stating to obvious expecting me to give you the dub for the argument over changing the entire narrative of what I was saying.

2020-03-13 08:34:25 UTC  

Note that historically, for 6 to 7 decades there was a recession on average 24 months after the yield curve inverted. Every time.

2020-03-13 08:35:35 UTC  

Is it cause and effect? No, but you must admit that this is consistent enough to spark confidence in the common coincidence following such a phenomenon.

2020-03-13 09:16:04 UTC  

@Shockwave In this case it’s different, the yield curve isn’t saying there will be a recession but signalling action must be taken.

2020-03-13 09:16:42 UTC  

It’s what the federal reserve did; hence a recession is not probable anytime soon.

2020-03-13 14:11:38 UTC  

Time will tell. Given the rapid loss of spending I expect we will see the mist rapid recession in US history. Our economy is built on spending and pretty much all spending except for a handful of specific items has essentially dried up.

2020-03-13 15:35:36 UTC  

It’s not so simple.

2020-03-13 17:19:08 UTC  

Its if Bloomberg becomes president we will have a better minimal wage but prices will go up only good for a short time we’ll only get dried up slower

2020-03-13 20:10:38 UTC  

@DrYuriMom The dow jumped 2k.

2020-03-13 20:26:11 UTC  

@Baphomet The business cycle doesn't mean "Capitalism" will collapse.