Message from @Deller

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2018-02-25 12:46:02 UTC  

.....really? You actually think the institution gives a flying fuck where you’re from

2018-02-25 12:46:10 UTC  

no

2018-02-25 12:46:18 UTC  

racist idiots do

2018-02-25 12:46:23 UTC  

Yep

2018-02-25 12:47:12 UTC  

and there is no institutional racism that disadvantages black people... if anything its the opposite

2018-02-25 12:47:48 UTC  

then again, i consider affirmative action as inherently racist/sexist

2018-02-25 12:48:20 UTC  

I mean, as I said above, affirmative action is the textbook definition of a racist law

2018-02-25 12:48:49 UTC  

it also hurts people that are supposed to profit from it

2018-02-25 12:49:16 UTC  

It is a law that effects you solely based on your race, ethnicity, sex, & religion. It’s textbook discrimination

2018-02-25 12:49:22 UTC  

it is

2018-02-25 12:49:37 UTC  

People forget that discrimination can be both positive and negative

2018-02-25 12:49:58 UTC  

there is no positive discrimination

2018-02-25 12:50:13 UTC  

it always has negative effects on someone else

2018-02-25 12:50:17 UTC  

It can 100% effect people positively

2018-02-25 12:50:29 UTC  

That doesn’t make it right

2018-02-25 12:51:20 UTC  

if you have 100 spots to fill and "positively discriminate" against someone that only means that someone else who is more deserving gets left out

2018-02-25 12:52:11 UTC  

But that’s assuming a zero sum scenario.

2018-02-25 12:52:46 UTC  

is there ever a scenario that is not zero sum where affirmative action is applied?

2018-02-25 12:54:09 UTC  

If an employer decides it’s February so I’m going to give a $100 bonus out of pocket to all my black employees for black history month or some shit that’s a positive discriminatory act. No nonblack employees are hurt by you doing this

2018-02-25 12:54:39 UTC  

That doesn’t make it not discriminatory though

2018-02-25 12:55:09 UTC  

thats extremely discriminatory

2018-02-25 12:55:36 UTC  

Any form of positive discrimination inherently contains negative discrimination.

2018-02-25 12:55:46 UTC  

And vice versa.

2018-02-25 12:55:46 UTC  

also... even the people "profiting" from affirmative action are actually hurt by it... by the existence because it discourages them from being "their best" and everyone who gets hired has to work against the stigma of possibly being a "diversity hire"

2018-02-25 12:56:00 UTC  

any form of discrimination is discrimination, it literally means to make a difference

2018-02-25 12:56:04 UTC  

deller, that example is not affirmative action 😉

2018-02-25 12:56:29 UTC  

No, but it’s positive discrimination

2018-02-25 12:56:39 UTC  

There is no positive affirmative action

2018-02-25 12:56:44 UTC  

but i could construe the negative effect of it if you want me to 😄

2018-02-25 12:56:58 UTC  

Affirmative action just sucks

2018-02-25 12:57:03 UTC  

yip

2018-02-25 12:57:14 UTC  

on every level

2018-02-25 12:57:18 UTC  

And should have disappeared 30+ years ago

2018-02-25 12:58:04 UTC  

pushing people into positions they are not qualified for never helps anyone

2018-02-25 12:58:29 UTC  

and if they are qualified they do not need affirmative action to begin with

2018-02-25 12:58:41 UTC  

It was necessary in to help out the generations devastated by Jim Crow, but Jim Crow laws haven’t existed in over 50 years

2018-02-25 12:59:13 UTC  

it was the wrong way to go even then.

2018-02-25 12:59:17 UTC  

There’s literally no justification for keeping this shit

2018-02-25 13:00:07 UTC  

don't hire unqualified people, turn them into qualified people and then hire them based on their qualifications

2018-02-25 13:01:25 UTC  

might be more expensive in the short run but will end up with a working system in the forseeable future... affirmative action ensures that you will have unqualified people forever