Message from @Deller

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2018-02-25 12:28:17 UTC  

Because if the issue was all about race, and not culture, Nigerian Americans wouldn’t be doing better than most White & Asian Americans. Because the children of Nigerian immigrants aren’t mocked or put down by their parents for being intelligent. They aren’t discouraged from succeeding in school, and in fact are encouraged to the point where Nigerian Americans have one of the highest rates of bachelors degrees of any ethnic group in the nation.

2018-02-25 12:38:36 UTC  

Because the slave descendant group got pissed off that the overwhelming majority of Black Students at the best colleges in America are first or second generation immigrants

2018-02-25 12:42:47 UTC  

because racists are idiots?

2018-02-25 12:43:34 UTC  

This group is literally trying to argue that black immigrants experience racism differently. Like fucking really? Like what, you think the racist cop is gunna go “hold on, before I arrest you are you Nigerian?”

2018-02-25 12:43:57 UTC  

It’s beyond idiotic

2018-02-25 12:44:18 UTC  

well... they do experience racism differently

2018-02-25 12:44:59 UTC  

“Racism is institutional” “you can’t experience institutional racism if you’re the child of a black immigrant”

2018-02-25 12:45:36 UTC  

they don't get called an "uncle tom" or other slurs by racist idiots just because they are good at something

2018-02-25 12:46:02 UTC  

.....really? You actually think the institution gives a flying fuck where you’re from

2018-02-25 12:46:10 UTC  

no

2018-02-25 12:46:18 UTC  

racist idiots do

2018-02-25 12:46:23 UTC  

Yep

2018-02-25 12:47:12 UTC  

and there is no institutional racism that disadvantages black people... if anything its the opposite

2018-02-25 12:47:48 UTC  

then again, i consider affirmative action as inherently racist/sexist

2018-02-25 12:48:20 UTC  

I mean, as I said above, affirmative action is the textbook definition of a racist law

2018-02-25 12:48:49 UTC  

it also hurts people that are supposed to profit from it

2018-02-25 12:49:16 UTC  

It is a law that effects you solely based on your race, ethnicity, sex, & religion. It’s textbook discrimination

2018-02-25 12:49:22 UTC  

it is

2018-02-25 12:49:37 UTC  

People forget that discrimination can be both positive and negative

2018-02-25 12:49:58 UTC  

there is no positive discrimination

2018-02-25 12:50:13 UTC  

it always has negative effects on someone else

2018-02-25 12:50:17 UTC  

It can 100% effect people positively

2018-02-25 12:50:29 UTC  

That doesn’t make it right

2018-02-25 12:51:20 UTC  

if you have 100 spots to fill and "positively discriminate" against someone that only means that someone else who is more deserving gets left out

2018-02-25 12:52:11 UTC  

But that’s assuming a zero sum scenario.

2018-02-25 12:52:46 UTC  

is there ever a scenario that is not zero sum where affirmative action is applied?

2018-02-25 12:54:09 UTC  

If an employer decides it’s February so I’m going to give a $100 bonus out of pocket to all my black employees for black history month or some shit that’s a positive discriminatory act. No nonblack employees are hurt by you doing this

2018-02-25 12:54:39 UTC  

That doesn’t make it not discriminatory though

2018-02-25 12:55:09 UTC  

thats extremely discriminatory

2018-02-25 12:55:36 UTC  

Any form of positive discrimination inherently contains negative discrimination.

2018-02-25 12:55:46 UTC  

And vice versa.

2018-02-25 12:55:46 UTC  

also... even the people "profiting" from affirmative action are actually hurt by it... by the existence because it discourages them from being "their best" and everyone who gets hired has to work against the stigma of possibly being a "diversity hire"

2018-02-25 12:56:00 UTC  

any form of discrimination is discrimination, it literally means to make a difference

2018-02-25 12:56:04 UTC  

deller, that example is not affirmative action 😉

2018-02-25 12:56:29 UTC  

No, but it’s positive discrimination

2018-02-25 12:56:39 UTC  

There is no positive affirmative action

2018-02-25 12:56:44 UTC  

but i could construe the negative effect of it if you want me to 😄

2018-02-25 12:56:58 UTC  

Affirmative action just sucks

2018-02-25 12:57:03 UTC  

yip