Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-05-23 17:52:23 UTC  

What culture is carb exclusive?

2018-05-23 17:54:39 UTC  

i dont think any culture in human history has been carb exclusive

2018-05-23 17:55:31 UTC  

we developt from an omnivorous species and never lived in an envirnemnt without hunting or livestock as part of the culture

2018-05-23 17:55:33 UTC  

Oh, I was looking at your previous comment comparing Asia to other cultures.

2018-05-23 17:56:03 UTC  

even native americans ate meat on occasions

2018-05-23 17:58:49 UTC  

incas farmed hamsters

2018-05-23 17:59:09 UTC  

So what do you think has caused the high rates of diabetes there, when they had some of the lowest rates twenty years ago?

2018-05-23 17:59:27 UTC  

sugar

2018-05-23 17:59:49 UTC  

As in, they're eating more rice? Are you agreeing with that author?

2018-05-23 18:02:04 UTC  

are they eating more than they need? or eating more than they should relitive to other food? if the former is the case then they should be getting more obese. also to add they are probly living less active lifestyles as all developed countrys are doing. if its the latter than id expect to see other health problems associated with not getting enough neutriants in general which i dont think ive seen. its also possible that they arnt eating more rice than they use to

2018-05-23 18:04:10 UTC  

from what i hear they are getting more obese too so its probably more to do with that, it could be more obese from both eating more and exersizing less just like america

2018-05-23 18:04:39 UTC  

in which case its not what they are eating, its how much

2018-05-23 18:05:20 UTC  

You don't think the rise of fast food has anything to do with it?

2018-05-23 18:08:42 UTC  

fast food is only as bad as what is in it, if you make fast food but it has the same ingredients in the same proportions as something that is in the native diet before it or just something you could eat in your normal diet without any health problems then fast food is just food. but thats rarely the case, what tends to happen is fast food adds salt or sugar or offers the richest options already availbe in a native diet as their main fair

2018-05-23 18:09:06 UTC  

ive seen someone lose fat and eat healthy on a week of eating mcdonalds

2018-05-23 18:09:54 UTC  

however that is not consistent with what that kind of food tends to encourage even if they have guidelines they "want" you to follow on their website

2018-05-23 18:12:05 UTC  

ive actually tried to eat fastfood with a reasonible diet before, my main issue was balancing calorys and salt and i never even tried to make sure the carbs were low glysemic because that would have added a whole new factor. ultimately i found i could really only manage to find salads at chipotle that had lots of protine added to them and sour cream which would be truly balanced

2018-05-23 18:12:30 UTC  

oddly enough tortilla chips actually balanced it out a lot better than the food alone

2018-05-23 18:13:20 UTC  

fast food is a problem in the us and probably abroad, ive heard that in europe they actually require all fast food to have half the salt the usa providers have

2018-05-23 18:32:22 UTC  

salt sugar and fat, all things the body needs. which people immediately view as bad and think its a good idea to not touch them ever

2018-05-23 18:32:42 UTC  

i definatly agree that the human taste seeks those 3 out, and as we raise kids with more of those in their diet they will find it harder to adapt their taste to not craving those more than they already do (as you know children have the highest craving for the 3)

2018-05-23 18:33:31 UTC  

oh the body needs them, thats why it craves them. sugar maybe not so much, its more than sugar is a fast food literally not just figuratively and when humans needed to be very fast it was useful

2018-05-23 18:33:56 UTC  

no one should think that never having any of them (maybe sugar) is a good idea though

2018-05-23 18:33:58 UTC  

its more types of sugar than sugar itself

2018-05-23 18:34:20 UTC  

show my the person that got fat from eating too many blueberries

2018-05-23 18:35:07 UTC  

blueberries arnt pure sugar. the fiber in the skin of blueberries probably offsets the sugar a lot

2018-05-23 18:36:01 UTC  

if you mix sugar with hard to digest food it offsets it a bit im pretty sure because your literally burning sugar just to eat

2018-05-23 18:36:23 UTC  

(which is why you can actually become to emaciated to eat right before starving to death)

2018-05-23 18:37:09 UTC  

so give kids things high in fiber, got it. lmao

2018-05-23 18:37:22 UTC  

"here kids, have a candy bar and a fiber 1"

2018-05-23 18:37:25 UTC  

EAT YOUR GREENS

2018-05-23 18:38:53 UTC  

well honestly id argue for maybe less processed foods

2018-05-23 18:40:15 UTC  

good luck trying to win that

2018-05-23 18:43:10 UTC  

this was always my favorate bit from this show

2018-05-23 21:15:49 UTC  

I'm actually in the process of adjusting my diet. I'm not particularly fat, but I am gaining. I also snack way too much. Hardest part is that food is just too damn good.

2018-05-23 21:16:01 UTC  

That and caffeine withdrawal.

2018-05-23 21:31:38 UTC  

Cutting Soda helps a lot

2018-05-23 21:31:39 UTC  

channel your hunger to your inner debater

2018-05-23 21:33:56 UTC  

also, eat a huge breakfast. eggs, bacon, and some greens and you probably won't need food till dinner

2018-05-23 21:34:08 UTC  

I eat nothing but Pasta & pizza with the occasional steak, chicken, hot dog, & fries. I've never tried soda, only ever drink water, lemonade, fruit punch, & milk. At my heaviest I was 170lb