Yeah. Used to be a doctor told patients what they need.

Now patients think they can tell doctors what they want.

Well, that's what the pharma companies tell them during every single &*(#% commercial break.

Sigh

Entitlement is one of the more negative aspects of a democratic system.

"I get to choose the government, you think you can defy me?"

That’s awful! I could never imagine yelling and demanding drugs or anything else from a doctor. I’m so sorry you have to deal with that

So, bookworm, do you think if people did t have a choice they wouldn’t be demanding? I’m not asking this in a condescending tone.

Democratic entitlement would be resolved if we made citizens have to work to earn the right to vote.

Sounds like you read Jerry Pournelle and his Codominion stories. Not sure if people would ever vote to lose the franchise.

the war on drugs has done nothings but put political prisoners in jail, and decimate whole communities for having the gall to get addicted to something that is addictive.

they call it a health crisis and treat it like a crime wave

pick one

^^

People want to put shit in their body, fine. But if you are selling something without making known dangers known to the buy, you are lying of omission and i would be fine being considered an illegal act. everything else, let the states decide

alcohol: okay
Nicotine: okay
Pot: not okay

logic found: none

Close guess, I got the idea from Heinlein. But yeah, the only way that could come into being is if there was a civil war and the entire government was reformed.

politics found: lots

also @Dvir service guarantees citizenship?

I loved those books and even the movie.

I tried medicinal pot for a medical issue and it didn’t work for me. In fact, it made me feel awful. But, if it helps some people feel better why would you be against it? (Respectfully)

IM DOING MY PART

Sargons breakdown of the book was brilliant, you watched that?

I did, it inspired me to start rereading the books.

Hmmm... I am now imagining an actual racist supporting strong drug laws and abortion in order to decimate the black community.

I wouldn't be as hardline in the stance of voting, with only federal votes being granted to service-citizens while civilians can still vote in local and state elections.

But the idea of having to do a term of service to the Nation in order to become a politician is a brilliant idea.

@Joe_Limon , Eugenics much?

Right?

If service citizens tend to work for public sector work. Wouldn't only giving them the vote mean they would tend to vote for whatever party increases the government size/spending?

that would assume they had such power

also, it would mean that anyone who sees what is happening would then sign up, earn their vote, then vote down such powers

@Joe_Limon think of it more like mandatory service, only you have the option to opt out at the cost of not being able to vote

can live the rest of your life like most people do, just can't be a politician for a living

Paid service?

no, mandatory military service

there are a few countries which have this

Ah, the last service voting rights person I talked to had it expanded to any public service

Not even Heinlein limited it to military service given some are physically unable to perform that

The service had to force someone to choose the greater good over themselves

It didn't need to be military