Message from @DrYuriMom
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I loved those books and even the movie.
I tried medicinal pot for a medical issue and it didn’t work for me. In fact, it made me feel awful. But, if it helps some people feel better why would you be against it? (Respectfully)
IM DOING MY PART
Sargons breakdown of the book was brilliant, you watched that?
I did, it inspired me to start rereading the books.
Hmmm... I am now imagining an actual racist supporting strong drug laws and abortion in order to decimate the black community.
I wouldn't be as hardline in the stance of voting, with only federal votes being granted to service-citizens while civilians can still vote in local and state elections.
But the idea of having to do a term of service to the Nation in order to become a politician is a brilliant idea.
@Joe_Limon , Eugenics much?
Right?
If service citizens tend to work for public sector work. Wouldn't only giving them the vote mean they would tend to vote for whatever party increases the government size/spending?
that would assume they had such power
also, it would mean that anyone who sees what is happening would then sign up, earn their vote, then vote down such powers
@Joe_Limon think of it more like mandatory service, only you have the option to opt out at the cost of not being able to vote
can live the rest of your life like most people do, just can't be a politician for a living
Paid service?
no, mandatory military service
there are a few countries which have this
Ah, the last service voting rights person I talked to had it expanded to any public service
Not even Heinlein limited it to military service given some are physically unable to perform that
It didn't need to be military
well its like some countries which have that, such as Finland i believe
i think the general idea of most places is that military service is the shortest route, but i haven't read Heinlein to know what he laid out
The entire purpose of National Service is to prove that you are willing to put the good of the people over yourself. It doesn't have to be military, but it does have to be physically and mentally grueling and be a struggle that you overcome.
The idea is that you do not value what is handed to you, only what you earn.
Citizenship is not given, according to Heinlein. It is- Yep.
i worked for a non-profit that ran off the philosophy
how did they apply it?
we took donated old bikes, and would ship them to 3rd world countries with transportation crisis. You know, where like 1 person in a whole village would own a car.
on the receiving side, they did not give away the bikes. for 1, it would increase the amount of money needed to be raised to ship the container, 2 the own believed that if you gave them away, people would not value them. Taking them for granted and using them in irresponsible ways, and also create a dependency
so instead we sold them for dirt cheap, but something that was still significant value to the locals
That is smart and something foreign aid rarely thinks of.
i sometimes don;t think foreign aid is meant to aid, so much as to make a dependency for leverage
federal funding for the states works that way
but anyway, so they would sell for something like 5 bucks, which is like a month's or a few month's wages
this had a bonus side effect: by making the locals care about their bikes, they wanted to maintain them, because its cheaper to replace most parts than whole bikes
so we'd also ship over bike parts, which started a bike repair industry
thats atleast better then invading a country right?
also since most of these countries have a culture of men working and women staying at home, we sent donated sewing machines so that the women would have an easier time making stuff at home that they could sell at the market once a week or a month, however often they could
Cottage industries, yay!