Message from @Pendell

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2018-11-17 18:30:34 UTC  

slavery was a tradition

2018-11-17 18:31:48 UTC  

That is a good point, I've never known the legal recognition of gender to serve any real purpose... But I could be wrong on that.

2018-11-17 18:32:07 UTC  

If it doesn't really serve any use, then I'd be for eliminating that factor from the legal system altogether.

2018-11-17 18:33:23 UTC  

The (historic) reason is conscription/draft

2018-11-17 18:34:12 UTC  

you got documentation for that? i mean, seems valid and i'd believe it

2018-11-17 18:34:42 UTC  

but if that is the case, then the easy solution is to replace it with something like draft eligible or something.

2018-11-17 18:35:06 UTC  

Yep.

2018-11-17 18:35:33 UTC  

It was what I was told in my country.

2018-11-17 18:37:03 UTC  

I assume that would be the same reason for the US. Since the standing military doctrine requires forced drafting if full mobilization is required, as per current plans

2018-11-17 18:37:06 UTC  

The draft is BS anyways

2018-11-17 18:37:32 UTC  

It is but I doubt you can make it go away.

2018-11-17 18:38:10 UTC  

At least removing sex with draftee or something means you can bribe people to get out of it. Easier than going to Canada.

2018-11-17 18:38:50 UTC  

@DrYuriMom looks like we might have found a middle ground then.

2018-11-17 18:38:52 UTC  

I identify as a non draftable gender

2018-11-17 18:39:12 UTC  

You and basically everyone

2018-11-17 18:39:37 UTC  

XD mood

2018-11-17 18:39:54 UTC  

Aren't men denied the right to vote and such until they sign up for the draft

2018-11-17 18:40:16 UTC  

I read that on some right wing Tumblr meme

2018-11-17 18:40:47 UTC  

I was too β€œsmart” for my own good, so I was placed in the Royal Signal regiment.

2018-11-17 18:41:29 UTC  

@Pendell it would be more accurate to say you sign up for the draft when you register to vote.

2018-11-17 18:41:39 UTC  

And what if you just
Don't.

2018-11-17 18:41:49 UTC  

I think you default in when you turn 18 and get a license.

2018-11-17 18:42:00 UTC  

If you refuse to sign up for the draft can you get any of those things

2018-11-17 18:42:04 UTC  

Basically if you register anything with the government after 18, you are added to the draft.

2018-11-17 18:42:34 UTC  

So you have to sign up for the draft to get those things, essentially.
If you want to not be included in the draft, you cannot have those things.

2018-11-17 18:44:21 UTC  

by law i think any male US citizen is signed up to the draft once they hit 18

2018-11-17 18:44:30 UTC  

i don't really recall any way to really avoid it

2018-11-17 18:45:00 UTC  

except by avoiding the government all together so its harder for them to find you

2018-11-17 18:46:26 UTC  

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2018-11-17 18:46:38 UTC  

Not cool

2018-11-17 19:20:07 UTC  

Its important to know sex for DNA testing in crimes. If cops find male DNA at crime scene, but license says female someone might get dismissed incorrectly.

2018-11-17 19:20:59 UTC  

a rare scenario for sure, but still.

2018-11-17 19:52:20 UTC  

@grant exact opposite problem still happens if witnesses say they saw someone who looked female but only evidence they found says male.

2018-11-17 19:54:10 UTC  

Sure, but lets just add to that problem.

2018-11-17 19:57:29 UTC  

It doesn't add to the problem

2018-11-17 19:58:00 UTC  

If you look at my proposed solution, it should prevent that lazy police work

2018-11-17 19:58:11 UTC  

Androgen insensitivity syndrome. Born female phenotype but male genotype

2018-11-17 19:59:21 UTC  

Also, if you have DNA, then you should be getting that person dna to try and rule them out of other potential dna samples found @ @grant.

2018-11-17 19:59:35 UTC  

One thing I found published by the American Intersex Association claims one in one hundred Americans are born Intersex (various conditions)

2018-11-17 20:00:27 UTC  

So one in one hundred are truely non-binary, the rest well this is the debate channel

2018-11-17 20:00:27 UTC  

That'd be a whole lot of Americans.