And then they get surgery and fuck themselves up and get real dysphoria.

Gender expression is not gender or sex

I'm genuinely disgusted by that.

I subscribe to the "standards of care" model which requires psych evaluation before hormone or surgical changes

Also, I disagree with the notion that gender is a social construct. The hormones of our sex affect our gender identities most of the time.

@DrYuriMom absolutely.

You should be evaluated thoroughly to make sure you aren't otherwise mentally ill or dealing with some sort of severe trauma before being allowed on that stuff.

I had psych evaluations and letters before I started hormones and had my surgery. One of my letters was from the head of psychiatry at the site I practiced at the time. It really was nice since at first he was not thrilled about my change.

Agreed.

Agreed with who?

Me

Pendell

Got it.

Still, am I wrong?

Also I agree with you

Gender is inherent

Not a social construct

If gender was a social construct, and men have privilege, then everyone should identify as male.

XD

We've seen male infants who have trauma and get brought up as girls get all messed up.

Yeah

John Money's experiments.

Did not
... work out.

And despite my penis at birth, I was terrible at being a guy.

?

How so

I did the world a favor by transitioning. Really, I did.

If you don't mind me asking

I was just miserable and never could figure out the social queues.

For example, I had two wonderful guy friends growing up and they'd be shoplifting Penthouse and I'd just be rolling my eyes

Wow lmao

It would have been a lot more logical given how I behaved if I'd been the token chick of the group. They say that now.

Well, I'm going to get going. Nice talking to you guys. Have a nice day.

I mean I suck at hanging out with guys too lol

I like being in mixed groups.

You too Illyrian

Have fun!

For my whole life I've always generally socialized much better with girls than guys.

My wife makes a much better guy than I do, or would but she's okay with being a woman

She's still bitter that she couldn't be a pilot in the military back in 1990 when she could have done it

Given that you are the closest thing to our resident expert (and literally more of an expert on this than most people on left) Are there people with legit dysphonia who are not comfortable as either sex?