Message from @Pendell

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2018-11-17 21:41:38 UTC  

I would've disagreed with myself five years ago.

2018-11-17 21:42:04 UTC  

Five years ago I didn't know transgender existed

2018-11-17 21:42:14 UTC  

I'm already uncomfortable in public bathrooms and locker rooms, and I'm straight.

2018-11-17 21:42:24 UTC  

but that's the thing, this is the outcome the "cynics" foresaw coming

2018-11-17 21:42:36 UTC  

There just has to be some line other that "looking" female or vice versa. I know some "born women" who look awfully masculine.

2018-11-17 21:42:58 UTC  

I get what you mean.

2018-11-17 21:43:28 UTC  

So measuring by birth certificate and requiring some medical evidence of the identified gender to get the BC changed. I'm jiggy with that.

2018-11-17 21:43:44 UTC  

You're good with that?

2018-11-17 21:43:50 UTC  

💯

2018-11-17 21:44:23 UTC  

That said, I have been "jewel free" for over a decade so I already meet the bar we're talking about

2018-11-17 21:44:31 UTC  

I don't speak in slang, I just incorporate Yiddish, German, Japanese, and Italian into my vocabulary.

2018-11-17 21:44:32 UTC  

When it comes to the transgender debate, I think there is one thing we can all agree one.
Tucutes are absolute shitheads.

2018-11-17 21:44:40 UTC  

Tucutes?

2018-11-17 21:44:44 UTC  

?

2018-11-17 21:44:53 UTC  

The people who believe you can be transgender without having dysphoria.

2018-11-17 21:45:03 UTC  

They treat it like some sort of game.

2018-11-17 21:45:09 UTC  

No, it's no game

2018-11-17 21:45:09 UTC  

That would trivialize it.

2018-11-17 21:45:17 UTC  

Most of them "identify" as trans for attention.

2018-11-17 21:45:22 UTC  

Disgusting.

2018-11-17 21:45:35 UTC  

And then they get surgery and fuck themselves up and get real dysphoria.

2018-11-17 21:45:39 UTC  

Gender expression is not gender or sex

2018-11-17 21:45:41 UTC  

I'm genuinely disgusted by that.

2018-11-17 21:46:15 UTC  

I subscribe to the "standards of care" model which requires psych evaluation before hormone or surgical changes

2018-11-17 21:46:31 UTC  

Also, I disagree with the notion that gender is a social construct. The hormones of our sex affect our gender identities most of the time.

2018-11-17 21:46:38 UTC  

@DrYuriMom absolutely.

2018-11-17 21:47:17 UTC  

You should be evaluated thoroughly to make sure you aren't otherwise mentally ill or dealing with some sort of severe trauma before being allowed on that stuff.

2018-11-17 21:47:18 UTC  

I had psych evaluations and letters before I started hormones and had my surgery. One of my letters was from the head of psychiatry at the site I practiced at the time. It really was nice since at first he was not thrilled about my change.

2018-11-17 21:47:35 UTC  

Agreed.

2018-11-17 21:47:46 UTC  

Agreed with who?

2018-11-17 21:47:53 UTC  

Me

2018-11-17 21:47:57 UTC  

Pendell

2018-11-17 21:47:57 UTC  

Got it.

2018-11-17 21:48:06 UTC  

Still, am I wrong?

2018-11-17 21:48:07 UTC  

Also I agree with you

2018-11-17 21:48:12 UTC  

Gender is inherent

2018-11-17 21:48:20 UTC  

Not a social construct

2018-11-17 21:48:40 UTC  

If gender was a social construct, and men have privilege, then everyone should identify as male.

2018-11-17 21:48:51 UTC  

XD

2018-11-17 21:49:10 UTC  

We've seen male infants who have trauma and get brought up as girls get all messed up.

2018-11-17 21:49:16 UTC  

Yeah