Message from @Khanclansith
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However, only one will assure that the common denominator is our maximum achievable output.
One is confining, the other liberating.
Ill agree to that. But saying everyone gets the same oppurtunities is very misleading. World isnt cruel, its just uncaring. Forgot who i heard that from.
@Blackhawk342 For both you have to limit someones potential
@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama Yes, it is
Communism is possible and it looks like this
@Existence is identity Trolling are you?
No, Im serious look at Russia thats what equality looks like
95 percent of the population starving, food shortages while the Party elite gorge themselves? 50 percent of the food grown in private gardens and sold on Grey Markets to keep the whole population from starving to death while 95 of the agriculture lands only make up 50 percent of the food production?
Yes
Yeah no, Go back to your bridge troll
I promote an enviroment of competition, one where the weak get eaten
Its not exactly fair but its ideal
Striving for equality and altruism will get us back into the streets starving again
Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?
Altruism will lead us to gas chambers and gulags
Currentsy has always been simple a medium to gage value for trade... It is neither good nor evil. Human nature however can be both, either or or neither.
Communism has killed more people across this planet than any other form of politics, It can not function based on the simple principle that it runs in direct contradiction to human nature.
Communism is a manifestation of altruism
You just dont like the result of this so called "moral" virtue you cant have reason and altruism man has one mind not a collection of mind man has to sustain one body not a group
*Its not real altruism* Where have I heard that before? Oh right, Communists!
You hold the individual belongs to the state or the group
Altruism can help people, but it is dependent on the ability of others to absorb the loss in giving, forcing "Altruism" doesn't help.
For eons, Charity has been the private manifestation of Altruism, when ever something like that is taken over by large groups or even worse the government, corruption and suffering take over
The ethics of altruism advocate a sacrifice to someone else, anything else can be considered a gain thus cant considered altruism
Cept there is limited resource so assigining a value to things is pretty important and why altruism fails
Yes, because limited resources makes genocides happen
Unchecked Greed and hatred create Genocides
Except it was for the group and it was altruistic in premise
Humans create genocide. Hell, genocides are constants
Communists are great at Genocides, Stalin, Mao, Pot
Hitler did not live for himself he lived for his group
And we make groupa to survive enocunters with other groups
Ok well I have work to do.
And he killed millions of people for his group.
Yes
Why do people forget aboriginals killed other aboriginals all the time. If they had the capacity, they woulda also pulled a hitler
Capitalism at the beginning was very selfish it said you own your life you are not a slave to some state or group and we flourished
When we killed in our interests we stopped a war