Message from @Existence is identity

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2019-02-12 14:43:39 UTC  

i dont think it is a political issue bat a racist issue ... race has no place in politics ethnicity does but not race (color of skin)

2019-02-12 16:55:08 UTC  

Well i dont know about that part

2019-02-12 19:00:40 UTC  

Equity means equality of outcome

2019-02-12 19:01:22 UTC  

Equality means that everyone gets the same opportunities

2019-02-12 19:39:16 UTC  

Neither is achievable though

2019-02-12 21:17:21 UTC  

However, only one will assure that the common denominator is our maximum achievable output.

2019-02-12 21:17:52 UTC  

One is confining, the other liberating.

2019-02-12 21:50:01 UTC  

Ill agree to that. But saying everyone gets the same oppurtunities is very misleading. World isnt cruel, its just uncaring. Forgot who i heard that from.

2019-02-12 22:29:55 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 For both you have to limit someones potential

2019-02-12 22:30:31 UTC  
2019-02-12 22:33:35 UTC  

Communism is possible and it looks like this

2019-02-12 22:34:11 UTC  

@Existence is identity Trolling are you?

2019-02-12 22:34:27 UTC  

No, Im serious look at Russia thats what equality looks like

2019-02-12 22:36:26 UTC  

95 percent of the population starving, food shortages while the Party elite gorge themselves? 50 percent of the food grown in private gardens and sold on Grey Markets to keep the whole population from starving to death while 95 of the agriculture lands only make up 50 percent of the food production?

2019-02-12 22:36:36 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-12 22:37:31 UTC  

Yeah no, Go back to your bridge troll

2019-02-12 22:37:35 UTC  

I promote an enviroment of competition, one where the weak get eaten

2019-02-12 22:38:06 UTC  

Its not exactly fair but its ideal

2019-02-12 22:38:09 UTC  

Striving for equality and altruism will get us back into the streets starving again

2019-02-12 22:38:55 UTC  
2019-02-12 22:42:16 UTC  

Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?

2019-02-12 22:43:13 UTC  

Altruism will lead us to gas chambers and gulags

2019-02-12 22:44:47 UTC  

Currentsy has always been simple a medium to gage value for trade... It is neither good nor evil. Human nature however can be both, either or or neither.

2019-02-12 22:46:24 UTC  

Communism has killed more people across this planet than any other form of politics, It can not function based on the simple principle that it runs in direct contradiction to human nature.

2019-02-12 22:46:52 UTC  

Communism is a manifestation of altruism

2019-02-12 22:47:32 UTC  

Communism is Altruism taken to the irrational and pathological end.

2019-02-12 22:48:01 UTC  

You just dont like the result of this so called "moral" virtue you cant have reason and altruism man has one mind not a collection of mind man has to sustain one body not a group

2019-02-12 22:48:59 UTC  

*Its not real altruism* Where have I heard that before? Oh right, Communists!

2019-02-12 22:51:06 UTC  

You hold the individual belongs to the state or the group

2019-02-12 22:51:09 UTC  

Altruism can help people, but it is dependent on the ability of others to absorb the loss in giving, forcing "Altruism" doesn't help.

2019-02-12 22:52:22 UTC  

For eons, Charity has been the private manifestation of Altruism, when ever something like that is taken over by large groups or even worse the government, corruption and suffering take over

2019-02-12 22:52:50 UTC  

The ethics of altruism advocate a sacrifice to someone else, anything else can be considered a gain thus cant considered altruism

2019-02-12 22:54:29 UTC  

Cept there is limited resource so assigining a value to things is pretty important and why altruism fails

2019-02-12 22:55:22 UTC  

Yes, because limited resources makes genocides happen

2019-02-12 22:55:46 UTC  

Unchecked Greed and hatred create Genocides

2019-02-12 22:56:12 UTC  

Except it was for the group and it was altruistic in premise

2019-02-12 22:56:28 UTC  

Humans create genocide. Hell, genocides are constants

2019-02-12 22:56:37 UTC  

Communists are great at Genocides, Stalin, Mao, Pot

2019-02-12 22:56:43 UTC  

Hitler did not live for himself he lived for his group

2019-02-12 22:57:18 UTC  

And we make groupa to survive enocunters with other groups

2019-02-12 22:57:24 UTC  

Ok well I have work to do.