exactly

thats the point

that is a selfish act

Can't I do both?

you can, but its still selfish

Sounds like a consequence that will happen, regardless of your motivation.

short anser no, with an if. Long answer n owith a but.

Nah, I disagree with you.

it can't be altruistic unless it is a duty.

No you just do what I do.

Refuse to get ANY benfit from it

It's selfish on one front, selfless on another.

if its a duty its not selflessness because it didnt come from free will but duty

Help someone and the only thing you ask is for them in turn to help one person

Just because there's a "negative", that doesn't somehow negate the positive.

If anyone compliments you, you down right refuse it and say its just a normal thing to do

nothing can be selfless if it's forced upon a person

Altruism definitely fucks with the gene pool at least

that is why communism is the prime example of an altruistic ideology. You must sacrifice everything you value for the people, and be given as little value as possible in return.

no its not

Alturism also has a goal for a group.

Helping one group to keep them dependant and weak helps your group

Look at the world right now, look at nato

communism is all about self interest, they do it because it benefits them, not because it benefits anyone else

Lol communism never says give up what you value pls

the leaders do

but the people give up everything.

all their land

Never forget that north korea has 6 work days

Different people lead different lives. I want to live a life I personally deem worth living in _my_ case. I wasn't swayed by some ideology, or some random guy spewing nationalistic propoganda. I weighed the world, and deemed myself to be the few, and the others, the many.

all their money

This doesn't exactly fit into a government type, though

and one day of non voluntary volunteer work for the nation at your job on the seventh

Bad stuff happens there

It keeps them to busy to hungry and to dependant on the next day for them to rise up

that is why it is important to allow rational self-interest to become a virtue. Because it leads to people taking the responsibility for their own lives.

yes it does

Rational self interest to me would be, someone smart enough to abuse the welfare system, because those idiots forcing welfare will give you free money that someone else earned for you

and why is taking responsibility for ones own life a bad thing?

the ultimate selfish ideology is libertarianism (or closer still, objectivism)

no because you are stealing money from someone else