Message from @WOODY

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2018-01-23 01:37:16 UTC  

Nah, I disagree with you.

2018-01-23 01:37:25 UTC  

it can't be altruistic unless it is a duty.

2018-01-23 01:37:26 UTC  

No you just do what I do.

2018-01-23 01:37:34 UTC  

Refuse to get ANY benfit from it

2018-01-23 01:37:36 UTC  

It's selfish on one front, selfless on another.

2018-01-23 01:37:49 UTC  

if its a duty its not selflessness because it didnt come from free will but duty

2018-01-23 01:37:52 UTC  

Help someone and the only thing you ask is for them in turn to help one person

2018-01-23 01:38:03 UTC  

Just because there's a "negative", that doesn't somehow negate the positive.

2018-01-23 01:38:09 UTC  

If anyone compliments you, you down right refuse it and say its just a normal thing to do

2018-01-23 01:38:09 UTC  

nothing can be selfless if it's forced upon a person

2018-01-23 01:38:10 UTC  

Altruism definitely fucks with the gene pool at least

2018-01-23 01:38:31 UTC  

that is why communism is the prime example of an altruistic ideology. You must sacrifice everything you value for the people, and be given as little value as possible in return.

2018-01-23 01:38:38 UTC  

no its not

2018-01-23 01:38:40 UTC  

Alturism also has a goal for a group.

2018-01-23 01:38:50 UTC  

Helping one group to keep them dependant and weak helps your group

2018-01-23 01:39:07 UTC  

Look at the world right now, look at nato

2018-01-23 01:39:09 UTC  

communism is all about self interest, they do it because it benefits them, not because it benefits anyone else

2018-01-23 01:39:13 UTC  

Lol communism never says give up what you value pls

2018-01-23 01:39:17 UTC  

the leaders do

2018-01-23 01:39:23 UTC  

but the people give up everything.

2018-01-23 01:39:31 UTC  

all their land

2018-01-23 01:39:31 UTC  

Never forget that north korea has 6 work days

2018-01-23 01:39:31 UTC  

Different people lead different lives. I want to live a life I personally deem worth living in _my_ case. I wasn't swayed by some ideology, or some random guy spewing nationalistic propoganda. I weighed the world, and deemed myself to be the few, and the others, the many.

2018-01-23 01:39:35 UTC  

all their money

2018-01-23 01:39:47 UTC  

This doesn't exactly fit into a government type, though

2018-01-23 01:39:51 UTC  

and one day of non voluntary volunteer work for the nation at your job on the seventh

2018-01-23 01:39:53 UTC  

Bad stuff happens there

2018-01-23 01:40:20 UTC  

It keeps them to busy to hungry and to dependant on the next day for them to rise up

2018-01-23 01:40:24 UTC  

that is why it is important to allow rational self-interest to become a virtue. Because it leads to people taking the responsibility for their own lives.

2018-01-23 01:40:36 UTC  

yes it does

2018-01-23 01:41:05 UTC  

Rational self interest to me would be, someone smart enough to abuse the welfare system, because those idiots forcing welfare will give you free money that someone else earned for you

2018-01-23 01:41:06 UTC  

and why is taking responsibility for ones own life a bad thing?

2018-01-23 01:41:07 UTC  

the ultimate selfish ideology is libertarianism (or closer still, objectivism)

2018-01-23 01:41:28 UTC  

no because you are stealing money from someone else

2018-01-23 01:41:31 UTC  

I think everyone should keep their shit to themselves and be left alone

2018-01-23 01:41:34 UTC  

"virtue signalling" and "wanting to help for the sake of helping" can mingle together as one. I absolutely refuse to only ever think of myself. I do think about myself, of course. But that's not the only thing I think about.

2018-01-23 01:41:41 UTC  

so you are ultimately dependant on them.

2018-01-23 01:41:53 UTC  

no im not

2018-01-23 01:41:54 UTC  

I just don't prescribe to this idea that not being selfish is selfish.

2018-01-23 01:41:58 UTC  

Taxes.

2018-01-23 01:42:00 UTC  

you don't have to