to lust for something is almost akin to want, that's why the two usually come up in the same conversation

Where as want can be sometimes selfless

I can want for the world to be a happy place

that isnt exactly very selfish as wanting something only for me

it's not wrong nor selfish to want to help people make something of themselves and to better their life

where as if i lust for traps long enough

I could become gay o.o

Hunger is the strongest emotion if you're hungry enough

I would like to reiterate. I consider selfishness to be a virtue because it is the means by which I pursue living on earth. That is what it means to be an objectivist.

what if i WANT to go to bed, but people disagree with me on the internet?

lol

provided that it is rational.

Greed is good.

then you are being altruistic by staying up lol

its 2:35 at night! y'all killing me

I'd say voluntary and self-aware sacrifice for the good of others, and truly _wanting_ to do it, isn't even remotely selfish.

now you are learning first hand that altruism is anti-life 😂

Ah but are you soing good and sacrificing for others, or for the good feeling from it?

becuase thats what virtue signaling is

exactly

thats the point

that is a selfish act

Can't I do both?

you can, but its still selfish

Sounds like a consequence that will happen, regardless of your motivation.

short anser no, with an if. Long answer n owith a but.

Nah, I disagree with you.

it can't be altruistic unless it is a duty.

No you just do what I do.

Refuse to get ANY benfit from it

It's selfish on one front, selfless on another.

if its a duty its not selflessness because it didnt come from free will but duty

Help someone and the only thing you ask is for them in turn to help one person

Just because there's a "negative", that doesn't somehow negate the positive.

If anyone compliments you, you down right refuse it and say its just a normal thing to do

nothing can be selfless if it's forced upon a person

Altruism definitely fucks with the gene pool at least

that is why communism is the prime example of an altruistic ideology. You must sacrifice everything you value for the people, and be given as little value as possible in return.

no its not

Alturism also has a goal for a group.

Helping one group to keep them dependant and weak helps your group