I feel like the more this group grows, the more it will devolve into a miniature version of PewDiePie's comment section.

But, y'know

Congrats on the member count.

I 'spose.

We, ourselves, are essentially biological machines. I'm sure at some point in the extremely far away future, we'll reach the point in which we can create AIs that are on par, or superior to human beings. But that's nowhere near our lifetime, for sure.

Then again, maybe not. It _is_ just speculation, after all.

"They light them on fire."

Oh.

I mean, hey, the darker parts of Islamist groups need to be showcased. Not enough light is being shed on it, because people are afraid of offending Muslims. If only they'd get on board with Muslim reformation, and see the current religion as it truly is. So many people are a prisoner of that faith, afraid to speak out, or run from their oppressors. That and pile onto that the fact many people have only known Islam. So when you have the atrocities on one hand, and basically all you've ever known on another, things tend to become muddled. Whereas, in other peoples' cases, they've been on the outside, looking in, seeing the problems rising from Islamic extremism.

The media is, in a sense, making peoples' chances of escape from actual maniacs that much harder by refusing to attribute the radical Islamist tag on pretty much any act of terrorism. And then there's the reality of them straight-up ignoring some attacks. A lot of attacks, actually. I have to actually look up the terrorist attacks in Europe. You'd think something like that would be top news. People are dying, and yet still, so many are willing to turn a blind eye. The literally only thing that they are accomplishing is further entrenching good people within their own prison. The prison that they, in the majority of cases, were born into.

And it's giving really shitty people free reign. It somewhat reminds me of the recruitment process of _actual_ white nationalists. Not this _blanket statement_ made up by many left-leaning individuals, who use it to discredit and defame their ideological and opinionated opponents. Basically, stories have been going around where (actual) white nationalists and skinheads have been recruiting kids and others at a young age who have been discarded by society. And what becomes of this is a sort of _"what if" situation. What _if_ these kids hadn't been manipulated and warped into someone else's twisted image at such a young age? Would they have been good people if they hadn't been thrown away so easily?

That's why I'm for Islamic reformation. _Technically,_ it makes little to no sense in one regard. Faith is about believing in something blindly, not changing what you have faith in. So it's kind of stupid on that front. Otherwise, why did you ever have faith to begin with if you were just going to change it? But on another more important side of things, Islam isn't going to go away. So the best chance the world has to step in the right direction is Islamic reformation, where the Qu'ran is revisted and revised to better fit a more peaceful and less barbaric way of life.

>wall of text
>rambling

Oh. My bad.

^

I have to chuckle whenever I see a feminist supporting Islam as a whole while literally being willfully ignorant and blind to the many shortcomings it possesses. Like, you'd literally have to _actively_ avoid and purposefully forget, or not believe no matter what, details here and there that challenge your position.

Sounds like a full-time job imo

Yeah, I never got around to figuring out what I even am

I guess I just saw it as a waste of time

In the end, whatever I am, I'd rather take a middle stance despite my beliefs, so as to create a platform upon which I can act as liason between the right and the left. To act as a voice of reason, and compromise. Fighting like this has really taken its toll, and anyone should be able to see what it's been doing to the current political sphere.

I'd rather people in general just start working together

but

>naivety

Humans are pretty irrational beings a lot of the time

^^^

Nowadays, it seems people are less willing to clash opinions towards the goal of _personal_ growth, and instead, go for a more _targeted_ approach. They'd much rather use people as sponges to absorb their ideologies, and dummies to yell at to feel superior.

When those sponges and dummies yell back, they don't know what to do except continue yelling

and it goes on and on and on and on

The cycle of ideological and moral idiocy.

^^^

I'm shit at verbal debates.

I'm a stumbling and stuttering dumbass when it comes to formulating my opinions under stress.

who?

Oftentimes, it feels like an ambush

Which it essentially is sometimes

It's hard to prepare when it's an ambush.

I'd rather not go around, jumping at social shadows.

^

"Let me just take out my binder..."

Yeah, sometimes, people like to bounce off what they've heard off of other people simpy because they heard it from a person with whom they agree with most of the time.

I always hated reading through articles and PDF files in debates.

But I could never back down

So I just suffered for my own ego

Again, saying and doing are two entirely different things.

Humans may say one thing, but do another entirely.

It's a good trait to be able to follow up.

Emotions are damaging to intellectual stability, Revolver

In the moment, you may say or do something you didn't intend on doing

>just control your emotions

Saying and doing.

In the moment, it's not so easy for some people.

It's a comfortable position to say that while calm. Another entirely while frustrated and not thinking clearly.

It's a process.

I wouldn't practice apathy

I've went down that road

I don't believe in destiny personally. I just believe in changeable circumstances.

oh

...

:c

I...

That was a blunder, lol.

Destiny... who is that?

Is that his literal name on YouTube?

Jontron is a smart guy, he's just not very practiced at debates.

Not having the full picture and thinking that you do doesn't make you inherently dumb in all aspects. That's kind of a blanket-statement.

^

Thinking vs. knowing are two different things.

I'd be awful at articulating my thoughts in a verbal debate

>don't practice at stuff you aren't inherently good at

>don't attempt to better yourself

I gotta build that confidence.

I gotta learn and practice.

And sometimes, that means putting myself in stressful situations.

I don't see the debate being about solely convincing someone else of something

I'd much rather go in on an even field, wanting to learn and _'expand my horizons'_

That's my main goal tbh

Again, saying and doing are two different things. Human beings are very biased creatures.

It can often be quite the hurdle to get over those biases.

IE, the far-left as it is today

They're sort of trying to swallow classic liberalism and claim it as their own

Even without emotion, our biases affect how we think and act.

When you think something for as long as you do, it's hard to just see past that.

You can be as _'rational'_ as you want to be, but even _'emotionless'_, you still need to watch out

It's shaped how you think

Emotion has a lot to do with it yeah, but it's not the sole thing

"Excuse me, sir, but do you have a moment to discuss our lord and savior, Buddah?"

>joking

It's a fascinating belief system, though.

>about to derail the topic slightly

So, uh. These channels. One is breaking news. Another is news. Another is fake news. Technology, I guess? Hate speech, I guess? Shitposting works. It's a strangely-structured server. Very specific channels. I guess the breaking news channel is for discussing more important news, while this is for less important news? And I guess the hate speech channel is about discussing hate speech? Or mocking the blanket-statement that it's become?

I dunno, I guess I'm just a little iffy on the structure as a whole

Reminds me of that guy who got in trouble for teaching his pug how to Nazi salute. In Ireland, I think

>wondering if this goes in hate-speech

oh well

ah

The policing is really getting to be ridiculous in the UK, from what I hear.

People are gettin arrested for hate speech.

Anyone who even dares to suggest that the mass immigration has caused problems are at risk.

Then again

Word-of-mouth, and stray videos and articles

I don't hear a lot about them. What's going on there?

Germany has been really touchy about anything someone might deem as "extreme." ever since the whole Adolf thing simmered down

Yeah, the UK needs some kind of bill to protect rights. The fact that this is happening at all is just one step further towards an authoritarian construct.

If it doesn't get better, it'll get worse

This kind of thing doesn't just stagnate

Where there's power and control to be had, you better believe certain types will grasp at it