Message from @O_Castitatis_Lilium

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2018-01-23 01:31:58 UTC  

if he was the only one that knew how to do it, and he died, then the rest of them would have too because they didn't know how to do it

2018-01-23 01:32:36 UTC  

I value the human race's continued existence. Because I know that if my life doesn't leave some kind of something behind positive, I'll know that I've lived a nigh pointless existence. Doesn't mean I can't do anything for myself. It just means that I _want_ to sacrifice for the good of humankind.

2018-01-23 01:32:39 UTC  

no, because it benefits him to have other people know how to do it, because then his children will have fire.

2018-01-23 01:32:41 UTC  

I _want_ to do this.

2018-01-23 01:32:44 UTC  

I was never taught that.

2018-01-23 01:32:50 UTC  

to give a person the chance to get off the dole and make something of themselves is not selfish in the slightest

2018-01-23 01:32:58 UTC  

yes, i value my childrens ability to not be a slave to another persons whims, boy am i a selfish bastard 😛

2018-01-23 01:33:05 UTC  

I weighed the world, and formulated opinions accordingly.

2018-01-23 01:33:07 UTC  

want is the most selfish of emotions.

2018-01-23 01:33:16 UTC  

The equation obviously isn't that simple in my eyes, others can value you and thus suicide is not at all altruistic

2018-01-23 01:33:16 UTC  

ehhh...

2018-01-23 01:33:24 UTC  

I would argue lust is the most selfish emotion

2018-01-23 01:33:29 UTC  

Not all selfishness is inherently bad all the time

2018-01-23 01:33:30 UTC  

lust too

2018-01-23 01:33:34 UTC  

It depends on the situation.

2018-01-23 01:33:35 UTC  

i thought Pride was the strongest emotion

2018-01-23 01:33:36 UTC  

no it isnt

2018-01-23 01:33:48 UTC  

and that lust and all teh other sins came from that

2018-01-23 01:33:56 UTC  

Want is a selfish thing sure, but lust can turn a want into a need that can override ones senses

2018-01-23 01:34:10 UTC  

yes, if it is irrational.

2018-01-23 01:34:21 UTC  

to lust for something is almost akin to want, that's why the two usually come up in the same conversation

2018-01-23 01:34:24 UTC  

Where as want can be sometimes selfless

2018-01-23 01:34:37 UTC  

I can want for the world to be a happy place

2018-01-23 01:34:51 UTC  

that isnt exactly very selfish as wanting something only for me

2018-01-23 01:34:58 UTC  

it's not wrong nor selfish to want to help people make something of themselves and to better their life

2018-01-23 01:35:01 UTC  

where as if i lust for traps long enough

2018-01-23 01:35:05 UTC  

I could become gay o.o

2018-01-23 01:35:06 UTC  

Hunger is the strongest emotion if you're hungry enough

2018-01-23 01:35:10 UTC  

I would like to reiterate. I consider selfishness to be a virtue because it is the means by which I pursue living on earth. That is what it means to be an objectivist.

2018-01-23 01:35:24 UTC  

what if i WANT to go to bed, but people disagree with me on the internet?

2018-01-23 01:35:32 UTC  

lol

2018-01-23 01:35:34 UTC  

provided that it is rational.

2018-01-23 01:35:37 UTC  

Greed is good.

2018-01-23 01:35:48 UTC  

then you are being altruistic by staying up lol

2018-01-23 01:35:51 UTC  

its 2:35 at night! y'all killing me

2018-01-23 01:35:59 UTC  

I'd say voluntary and self-aware sacrifice for the good of others, and truly _wanting_ to do it, isn't even remotely selfish.

2018-01-23 01:36:24 UTC  

now you are learning first hand that altruism is anti-life 😂

2018-01-23 01:36:31 UTC  

Ah but are you soing good and sacrificing for others, or for the good feeling from it?

2018-01-23 01:36:40 UTC  

becuase thats what virtue signaling is

2018-01-23 01:36:41 UTC  

exactly

2018-01-23 01:36:44 UTC  

thats the point