Message from @O_Castitatis_Lilium

Discord ID: 405179306491510796


2018-01-23 01:54:13 UTC  

he was 25

2018-01-23 01:54:16 UTC  

but you are implying it

2018-01-23 01:54:26 UTC  

>my mind thinks something, therefore it is

2018-01-23 01:54:33 UTC  

yes

2018-01-23 01:55:00 UTC  

"I can read your mind, and know without making any investigations."

2018-01-23 01:55:07 UTC  

no I'm not, I'm not selfish and neither is anyone else who wants to put food into their own kids mouths instead of paying for some idiot on welfare to get another dime bag or grab another 6 pack, or even just to pay for his mersedes payment

2018-01-23 01:56:08 UTC  

and no, it's not Altruism, because paying for that shit has to be willingly done, not forced to do it

2018-01-23 01:56:10 UTC  

well just from your previous statements you are talking about choosing between sacrificing 1 person and the rest of humanity, I'm assuming that the person is you because otherwise that choice would be trivial.

2018-01-23 01:56:11 UTC  

But anyway, this really is just a cycle of "my opinion", then "your opinion." I have no idea what logical conclusions you've come to to decide what you've decided, but I'll probably leave you to it here pretty soon.

2018-01-23 01:56:30 UTC  

Oh yeah, if I had to be sacrificed, then fuck yeah

2018-01-23 01:56:32 UTC  

Sign me up

2018-01-23 01:56:39 UTC  

If the alternative is everyone else

2018-01-23 01:56:42 UTC  

Its not just my opinion, I am giving my rationale and you are rejecting it.

2018-01-23 01:56:52 UTC  

"My rationale"

2018-01-23 01:56:55 UTC  

"My"

2018-01-23 01:57:15 UTC  

"Accept my opinion as I dress it up as irrefutable fact!"

2018-01-23 01:57:26 UTC  

no you aren't

2018-01-23 01:57:29 UTC  

"You don't see it as fact? But I cannot fathom!"

2018-01-23 01:57:50 UTC  

you are trying to guilt people into accepting that Altrusim's definition is to be leeched off ot

2018-01-23 01:57:52 UTC  

*of

2018-01-23 01:57:54 UTC  

and it's not

2018-01-23 01:58:00 UTC  

and it isn't working

2018-01-23 01:58:33 UTC  

no, altruism's definition is to allow yourself to be leeched off of.

2018-01-23 01:58:45 UTC  

no it's not

2018-01-23 01:58:51 UTC  

because it neccessitates a sacrifice.

2018-01-23 01:58:53 UTC  

it's definition is to willingly help a person

2018-01-23 01:59:24 UTC  

you are the one not wanting to see it for what it truly is and are trying to force people to see it your way.

2018-01-23 01:59:27 UTC  

but who says that a society can't be altruistic but the people not?

2018-01-23 01:59:39 UTC  

Basically, what I was trying to get at is this: if I have to sacrifice for the good of humanity, sign me up. I don't even care if I'm being leeched off of, it's a purposeful leeching I fully consent to. And if the situation were to ever arise, I would never, in a _million years_ think of only myself. I'd be apprehensive as all hell, but I wouldn't _not_ sacrifice.

2018-01-23 01:59:40 UTC  

if you force a person to pay for someone and have them be dependent on you, it's not Altruism

2018-01-23 01:59:49 UTC  

I'm giving a part of myself to something I believe in.

2018-01-23 01:59:59 UTC  

And that's the part absolutely no one could ever take away from me.

2018-01-23 02:00:10 UTC  

In any concievable situation.

2018-01-23 02:00:27 UTC  

The part of me _wanting_ to make changes for the betterment of my kind.

2018-01-23 02:00:44 UTC  

but you are included in your kind

2018-01-23 02:00:57 UTC  

so you still are not performing a sacrifice.

2018-01-23 02:00:57 UTC  

"One of us suffers, so all of us must suffer"

2018-01-23 02:01:07 UTC  

It sounds a lot like naivety.

2018-01-23 02:01:08 UTC  

> wants to not be a degenerate
> is degenerate

2018-01-23 02:01:09 UTC  

same

2018-01-23 02:01:13 UTC  

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