Message from @Enigmus
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Generational welfare exists
the HPV thing is not really so much a cure as it is just a test to see how far it is
people whom have fathers and grandefathers whom never finished school whom never worked
and have dozens of children
I never said that selfishness was about sacrificing others for yourself
far from it
HPV is a virus everyone has, but now there is a test to see if it's going rogue or not
And I never said that you said that.
oh I agree generational welfare exists
So I guess impasse.
I know fourth generational welfare recipents, i tried to help him learn to read
he was 25
but you are implying it
>my mind thinks something, therefore it is
yes
"I can read your mind, and know without making any investigations."
no I'm not, I'm not selfish and neither is anyone else who wants to put food into their own kids mouths instead of paying for some idiot on welfare to get another dime bag or grab another 6 pack, or even just to pay for his mersedes payment
and no, it's not Altruism, because paying for that shit has to be willingly done, not forced to do it
well just from your previous statements you are talking about choosing between sacrificing 1 person and the rest of humanity, I'm assuming that the person is you because otherwise that choice would be trivial.
But anyway, this really is just a cycle of "my opinion", then "your opinion." I have no idea what logical conclusions you've come to to decide what you've decided, but I'll probably leave you to it here pretty soon.
Oh yeah, if I had to be sacrificed, then fuck yeah
Sign me up
If the alternative is everyone else
Its not just my opinion, I am giving my rationale and you are rejecting it.
"My rationale"
"My"
"Accept my opinion as I dress it up as irrefutable fact!"
no you aren't
"You don't see it as fact? But I cannot fathom!"
you are trying to guilt people into accepting that Altrusim's definition is to be leeched off ot
*of
and it's not
and it isn't working
no, altruism's definition is to allow yourself to be leeched off of.
no it's not
because it neccessitates a sacrifice.
it's definition is to willingly help a person
you are the one not wanting to see it for what it truly is and are trying to force people to see it your way.
but who says that a society can't be altruistic but the people not?
Basically, what I was trying to get at is this: if I have to sacrifice for the good of humanity, sign me up. I don't even care if I'm being leeched off of, it's a purposeful leeching I fully consent to. And if the situation were to ever arise, I would never, in a _million years_ think of only myself. I'd be apprehensive as all hell, but I wouldn't _not_ sacrifice.