We already cured one kind of cancer

But not at the cost of others.

Of the majority of others.

two technically if you consider the hpv vacine a cure

Well, one is more important than the other.

I'm not saying not to help anyone, I'm all for helping someoen who has had a horrid accident at work which has left them unable to work, I'm not for helping some lazy idiot who would rather claim he can't work and just suck me dry of my tax money.

^

Generational welfare exists

the HPV thing is not really so much a cure as it is just a test to see how far it is

people whom have fathers and grandefathers whom never finished school whom never worked

and have dozens of children

I never said that selfishness was about sacrificing others for yourself

far from it

HPV is a virus everyone has, but now there is a test to see if it's going rogue or not

And I never said that you said that.

oh I agree generational welfare exists

So I guess impasse.

I know fourth generational welfare recipents, i tried to help him learn to read

he was 25

but you are implying it

>my mind thinks something, therefore it is

yes

"I can read your mind, and know without making any investigations."

no I'm not, I'm not selfish and neither is anyone else who wants to put food into their own kids mouths instead of paying for some idiot on welfare to get another dime bag or grab another 6 pack, or even just to pay for his mersedes payment

and no, it's not Altruism, because paying for that shit has to be willingly done, not forced to do it

well just from your previous statements you are talking about choosing between sacrificing 1 person and the rest of humanity, I'm assuming that the person is you because otherwise that choice would be trivial.

But anyway, this really is just a cycle of "my opinion", then "your opinion." I have no idea what logical conclusions you've come to to decide what you've decided, but I'll probably leave you to it here pretty soon.

Oh yeah, if I had to be sacrificed, then fuck yeah

Sign me up

If the alternative is everyone else

Its not just my opinion, I am giving my rationale and you are rejecting it.

"My rationale"

"My"

"Accept my opinion as I dress it up as irrefutable fact!"

no you aren't

"You don't see it as fact? But I cannot fathom!"

you are trying to guilt people into accepting that Altrusim's definition is to be leeched off ot

*of

and it's not

and it isn't working

no, altruism's definition is to allow yourself to be leeched off of.