Message from @Revan

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2018-01-29 01:12:05 UTC  

I guess they consider dying a cure for autism?

2018-01-29 01:14:08 UTC  

Which is sad considering autism isn’t a disease, you can’t cure it.

2018-01-29 01:29:03 UTC  

We can't cure it with the tech available to us right now, but we might be able to in the future.

2018-01-29 01:30:56 UTC  

I think it will eventually be treatable.

2018-01-29 01:30:58 UTC  

There’s nothing to cure though. Autism isn’t a sickness, it’s a disorder that effects state of mind.

2018-01-29 01:32:07 UTC  

As someone that has autism: no, fuck you. It absolutely is a disease (disorder is a subset there of) and there absolutely is something to cure.

2018-01-29 01:32:32 UTC  

Sure in the future you might be able to temporarily readjust their state of mind, but the default will always be the same

2018-01-29 01:32:33 UTC  

It is a neurological development disorder.

2018-01-29 01:32:37 UTC  

It's a mental condition just like any other.

2018-01-29 01:33:10 UTC  

And eventually treatable, maybe even cured.

2018-01-29 01:34:32 UTC  

Considering no mental condition in existence has ever been cured

2018-01-29 01:34:39 UTC  

From what I understand about autism, it would be something that probably has to be treated in utero

2018-01-29 01:35:30 UTC  

We do not know what the future might bring.

2018-01-29 01:36:13 UTC  

Treatable sure, but there’s a major difference between take this drug once and you’re good to go vs take this medication once a day every day

2018-01-29 01:36:33 UTC  

Of course.

2018-01-29 01:36:52 UTC  

Assuming that we'll never develop some form of medical tech capable of doing things we can't even imagine now is absurd.

2018-01-29 01:36:59 UTC  

holy heck hes live

2018-01-29 01:37:16 UTC  

Go explain an MRI to a doctor in the US civil war.

2018-01-29 01:37:38 UTC  

I sincerely doubt medicine will ever evolve to the point where humans have learned how to rewire a human brain

2018-01-29 01:38:11 UTC  

We're getting close to being able to stop Alzheimer's from spreading

2018-01-29 01:38:27 UTC  

It's not rewiring a brain, but it's the closest we've gotten to date

2018-01-29 01:38:38 UTC  

because the trials required to do so will almost assuredly be considered torture

2018-01-29 01:38:48 UTC  

being a furry is a mental illness

2018-01-29 01:38:51 UTC  

#facts

2018-01-29 01:39:08 UTC  

@ping I think the human condition is a mental illness

2018-01-29 01:39:24 UTC  

And unless we get the second coming of Nazi doctors who don’t give a shit about their patients o don’t see us ever getting there

2018-01-29 01:39:28 UTC  

then there is no point in classifing things as a mental illness

2018-01-29 01:39:28 UTC  

I thought the brain rewires the brain

2018-01-29 01:39:40 UTC  

nothing rewires anything

2018-01-29 01:40:04 UTC  

weights just change

2018-01-29 01:40:30 UTC  

I don't think we have to go straight to 'Nazi doctors' in order to advance medical science.

2018-01-29 01:40:53 UTC  

Oh wait, sorry, forgot, that's not real science. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-01-29 01:41:25 UTC  

How else would you propose doctors experiment on live human brains in order to change the way they perceive the world in a way that wouldn’t be considered torture?

2018-01-29 01:41:56 UTC  

Experiment on non human brains first

2018-01-29 01:42:02 UTC  

Volunteers second

2018-01-29 01:42:04 UTC  

@Deller If we ever get to the point where we can keep a brain alive in a jar, I'm sure somebody will donate their brain for science

2018-01-29 01:42:41 UTC  

It's easy to say 'we'll never', until someone does.

2018-01-29 01:42:53 UTC  

Except you can’t torture volunteers? You can thank shit like the Stanford Prison Experiments for that

2018-01-29 01:45:18 UTC  

Even if we can keep a brain alive in a jar, how do we know how that brain currently perceives the world? Hell, how would it even perceive the world?

2018-01-29 01:47:09 UTC  

There is a reason there is a series of animal trials and other rules before moving onto humans. The idea being to work out the kinks on animals before human trails, decreasing the chance it will end poorly

2018-01-29 01:47:31 UTC  

There are significant and extensive clinical trial research protocols for any medication, what the fuck makes you think those will not be developed for medication that is actively able to modify neurological connections? This reeks of scaremongering, anti-scientific, Luddism.