Message from @Aetius

Discord ID: 430480216708874250


2018-04-02 15:11:52 UTC  

we discussed a while ago is there a way you can bake in something into these files which cannot be edited, not without a lot of effort, so you can figure out if something was editted with like photoshop

2018-04-02 15:12:39 UTC  

perhaps using something like a block-chain will do it. Rather than try to harden the source, get security through redundancy.

2018-04-02 15:13:32 UTC  

if 100 people have the file and it says it was made on like 1/1/2018. and someone tries to say "no, it was made 1/1/2017" despite those 100 people have copies from the original file, everyone can say "no, you are wrong or a liar"

2018-04-02 17:05:43 UTC  

Well, there's hashing, natch.

2018-04-02 17:06:05 UTC  

Perchance a hashing algorithm that also uses the last date of modification or something?

2018-04-02 19:23:36 UTC  
2018-04-02 19:24:05 UTC  

you can already use existing blockchain technologies to sign images for basically free

2018-04-02 19:24:31 UTC  

but that's not going to mitigate photoshop

2018-04-02 19:25:42 UTC  

you would need to create some secure hardware (like a SIM card) that interfaces directly with a tamper proof camera sensor but even if you got past all that you would still be able to spoof it if you recovered the private key

2018-04-02 19:27:31 UTC  

and even then you have to make it easy for users to actually verify something is valid through a browser extension or something which isn't too user friendly and why would people taking images and people verifying images even bother

2018-04-02 19:29:25 UTC  

@ping in theory, if newly created things like images, can be put directly into a blockchain, then while it would not prevent someone from making a photoshopped copy, you could point to the blockchain as the original.

2018-04-02 19:29:46 UTC  

that's only useful as a timestamp tecnique

2018-04-02 19:29:57 UTC  

and you wouldn't put the image itself you would only need a hash

2018-04-02 19:33:08 UTC  

current timestamped techniques are already not reliable, which is part of the problem. How can you tell which is the original and which isn't if you can't trust the time stamp?

2018-04-02 19:33:29 UTC  

blockchain is how you verify timestamps

2018-04-02 20:49:16 UTC  

Let me be the first to say I thought it was great when Tim still had a channel, before he showed people shooting guns and got shut down.

2018-04-02 20:52:10 UTC  

poor Tim's channel, it was a good channel, for a mind-control beanie

2018-04-02 20:54:00 UTC  

also it seems to not be a specific thing, many more channels are reporting bugginess

2018-04-02 21:22:09 UTC  

Good news for the good goys.

2018-04-02 21:34:41 UTC  

Press F to pay respects to the Beanie

2018-04-02 21:36:01 UTC  

Still tho, the instructor that taught Tim to tea cup that 1911 should be fired

2018-04-02 22:57:54 UTC  

F

2018-04-03 00:39:52 UTC  

I would totally watch Cimtast if Tim ever made it.

2018-04-03 09:17:22 UTC  

Wait, does this mean that Tim's moving over to pornhub? This is legitimising my pornhub visits more and more 😄

2018-04-03 09:32:14 UTC  

I'm not grasping why pornhub isn't simply forking off

2018-04-03 09:32:28 UTC  

Like what, the cost of a new domain name and an SSL cert?

2018-04-03 09:32:52 UTC  

The porn streaming sites already have infrastructure

2018-04-03 10:35:18 UTC  

prolly the hassle that comes with it, Youtube aint exactly a profit making machine for google,

All those extra costs to steal users from a monopoly in a market that bleeds revenue

2018-04-03 10:44:05 UTC  

it would mainly be a vanity move if the owner wanted to make a point about being the new "bastion of free speech" or something I suspect

2018-04-03 10:45:39 UTC  

which is a pity - if they did spin off a 2nd domain for non-porn vids, then I wouldn't have to bypass the uk's anti-porn laws to go watch such channels

2018-04-03 10:56:52 UTC  

Of course the uk has anti porn laws for the internet...

2018-04-03 10:57:11 UTC  

TIL and not surprised.

2018-04-03 12:44:11 UTC  

👌

2018-04-03 12:44:25 UTC  

Good news lads. They backed out of the deal so western countires won't get 16,000 blacks from Israel.

2018-04-03 12:46:33 UTC  

Netanyahu isn't right wing enough IMO.

2018-04-03 12:47:09 UTC  

The fact he even considered letting some stay and putting the rest in other countries pisses me off.

2018-04-03 12:58:29 UTC  

Another good news story. This bitch is responsible for the deaths of more blacks than the apartheid goverment. She supported necklacing of people she disagreeded with and the killing of so called white collaborator who were blacks that ran business in the Bantustans (Bantutans were states created for the different Bantu (black) ethic groups) or were professionals like doctors and teachers who didn't support the ANC. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/activist-politician-winnie-mandela-dies-81-article-1.3910052

2018-04-03 13:05:07 UTC  

I actually agree with you there, good riddance to that monster