Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-04-09 03:07:33 UTC  

"im so powerful i have right to anything i see" <- this is a war land someone wants

2018-04-09 03:07:40 UTC  

over land*

2018-04-09 03:08:03 UTC  

its not about the land though, its about the claim

2018-04-09 03:08:40 UTC  

back in the day people would create monuments specificly stating the size of their empire and challanging anyone to rival it

2018-04-09 03:08:55 UTC  

those people dident get empires like that by being fools

2018-04-09 03:09:27 UTC  

but a claim like that isn't starting a war.

2018-04-09 03:09:30 UTC  

ill say were consiterably mild compared to then

2018-04-09 03:09:35 UTC  

Even in cases where it was over land, what do they want the land for?

2018-04-09 03:10:35 UTC  

i mean napolian only wanted to one up alexander, and he got away with trying it twice colapsing frances economy twice

2018-04-09 03:11:32 UTC  

even hitler was only interested in europe because it was a matter of pride to reclaim the sutendatenland

2018-04-09 03:11:54 UTC  

_fucking butchered that language_

2018-04-09 03:12:11 UTC  

i don't really care about why someone wants land. At the end of the day, its because someone wants land.

2018-04-09 03:12:21 UTC  

some times its pride, sometimes its resources.

2018-04-09 03:12:39 UTC  

so the question is, what land does russia want and why?

2018-04-09 03:12:51 UTC  

it seems like they want the old USSR back

2018-04-09 03:13:08 UTC  

which i highly doubt would lead to a real WW3

2018-04-09 03:13:14 UTC  

most times its pride, its usually resources when the opposing faction is absolutely so weak they are consitered another species to the conquirer or its soviet russia

2018-04-09 03:13:38 UTC  

or the mongols

2018-04-09 03:14:24 UTC  

eh the mongols it was a matter that once the khan united the tribes the only way to keep them together was to send them to war

2018-04-09 03:14:27 UTC  

they seem more content to be cheeky bastards and hide behind "local" forces. If they wanted WW3, they'd have out right invaded people by now.

2018-04-09 03:14:35 UTC  

same thing happened with atilla

2018-04-09 03:15:33 UTC  

america is also one of those rare places that only wars for land and doesent care about anything else

2018-04-09 03:15:46 UTC  

because we are ruled by nihilistic capitalists

2018-04-09 03:16:16 UTC  

the good of the people is in spite of progress not the goal in the land of oppertunity

2018-04-09 03:16:17 UTC  

they want land so any future enemy doesn't have it

2018-04-09 03:17:04 UTC  

or you know, to keep our uncontroled consumerism ever more bountiful

2018-04-09 03:17:38 UTC  

theres a reason we use a disproportionate amount of oil compared to our population

2018-04-09 03:18:00 UTC  

you gotta burn money to make money

2018-04-09 03:18:40 UTC  

or it could just be our general power usage

2018-04-09 03:20:13 UTC  

yes

2018-04-09 15:34:53 UTC  

I mean, war is pretty much a zero sum game.

2018-04-09 15:35:03 UTC  

Anything you gain, is a loss for someone elese.

2018-04-09 15:35:24 UTC  

Even resources you gain in land you already own, more resources is an advantage over ones adversary.

2018-04-09 15:35:38 UTC  

So I guess its kinda resonable and paranoid to think that way.

2018-04-09 16:36:38 UTC  

that is if you take war as only an issue,

War forces quick adaptation and evolution of combat,
WW2 was amazing for innovating technology, in fact the first electronic analog computer was a product of this

2018-04-09 16:38:33 UTC  

not to mention that after a war which ends in stability, the economy booms because all the old wares were destroyed, allowing a fresh new generation of equipment to be built and directly implemented

2018-04-09 16:41:22 UTC  

Kind of like bacteria and anti-biotics in a way,

the bacteria either adapts and becomes resistant, and this resistant strain makes the old anti-biotics useless.
Or the bacteria dies off

2018-04-09 16:41:45 UTC  

and if it survives, its stronger than before, because the weakness has been removed

2018-04-09 17:37:22 UTC  

economies don't boom in the countries devastated. Unless you are not taking the massive decline in the economies during the war.

2018-04-09 17:38:54 UTC  

thats why i said, in wars that end with stability, like the west in WW2

2018-04-09 18:35:48 UTC  

@Timcast https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/830148525853396992 i don't know if you get notifications of people @ ing you on minds, so i figure id share it here as well just to be sure. i just watched the culture war podcast, and this post of mine on minds provides some sources to stuff that went down during #gamergate, since you asked for it