Agreed. Oil companies being involved with the government is a good indicator that green technology companies being involved with the government will also lead to corruption

lobbying is an issue in general yeah

military industrial complex

the jail system

as well

big tech lobbys the left now

@chuckayy what are these big oil subsidies? are you talking about the ability of oil corporations to write off expenses? That's just something businesses can do

tax subsidies are when the government incentivizes the market by allowing certain industry or companies to pay less tax

`In the United States, the federal government has paid US$145 billion for energy subsidies to support R&D for nuclear power ($85 billion) and fossil fuels ($60 billion) from 1950 to 2016. During this same timeframe, renewable energy technologies received a total of US $34 billion. `

Never gonna get rid of lobbying in US am I right

yeah idk what the solution is

its a catch 22

in a free open market

you will have lobbying

but then lobbying creates a less democratic system

in some sense

one could argue that lobbying is an extension of competitive market capitalism, by going straight to the government

yeah for sure

i tend to want to side with the completely open system which will include lobbying but it seems to incentivize detrimental practices such as war, large incarceration rates

I agree

@chuckayy those subsidies sound legit. I've heard people before include writing off expenses to inflate figures which is bs. But 60b in direct subsidies over 7 decades sounds accurate.

But idk if it's that crazy. It's been a while since I looked at it, but I think state local and federal taxes at the pump are 4x what oil company profits per gallon are. There are no comparable renewable taxes like that.

shalom aleichem.

anyone watching the mueller testimony

Three years of American tax dollars wasted

lol

so you're not watching the testimony obviously

I HATE AFRICA

ANC MUST DIE.

i hate hungary

i hate china

When someone can’t debate their shitty ideal

them; what.

Oh and I wasn’t just saying he was, if you look in his stuff he is a fascist

@Deleted User Yeah no doubt lol. All he said to you was "what" a fact which I was mocking them about.

Hey, any mods on?

I need some help

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@Deleted User You messaged the same thing to me but didn't reply when I asked why

What made you think they would want to debate it lmao