Message from @Dr.Wol
Discord ID: 451020674895708190
So, the media is allowed to report on TR arrest now I guess
and they're saying that 1) he pled guilty and 2) he expressed regrets
this is giving rise to people saying he should be there and he committed a crime and the FreeTommy movement should stop now
but you know fuck free speech right?
free speech doesn't exist outside America
only "Speech we agree with"
right
"They wouldn't be given a free trial" .. wait weren't these people in sentencing anyway?
funny fact
the dutch actually have a freedom of speech law,
But its 7th, whilst the freedom of religion is 1st
Hence its a higher priority to openly do your religion than it is to say what you want
but what if your religion is the "religion of free speech"?
it must be a recognised religion
so even a Jedi doesn't count
so now you have a government validating what someone believes is either recognized or not
Also, our freedom of speech law has conditions,
The state may take your right away if it damages reputation, or harms security
yeah we don't have that
never can be taken away
hence, Tommy would be arrested in Netherlands too, on the grounds his livestream would reflect poorly on Muslims
"shall not be infringed" even though we do have slander/libel laws
yeah so that's not what you call "free speech" 😄
exactly
our version doesn't even protect discrimination
If you're being a racist you're not protected
"Yes also all those shouting #freetommy He pleaded GUILTY to contempt of court and breach of suspended sentence. His lawyer said he expressed deep regret ."
Well no one is denying that i think
He had an earlier sentence but got released earlier, and then did this
But this is obviously just a silencing ploy
1 day conviction, no trial, and british media gets a gag order
well its not actually correct
he didn't plead guilty to CoC
but breaching the peace
which is a new charge
technically should have been a new trial/crime/whatever
well, Britain doesn't share your 5th amendment either
@LotheronPrime slander/libel don‘t specifically target gender and are actually a thing.
that's my point
we already have broader laws on the books, why must they be specialized?
I mean I get the precedent with having hate crime sentencing
dont necessarily agree with it though
The media black out on Tommy Robinson has been lifted. He revived 13 months for attempting to film defendants outside a courthouse. Apparently this is illegal, and it was also clearly posted. Tommy pled guilty and expressed regret.
http://archive.today/dl3TU
wasn't he jsut already repeating what other news outlets had published?
also it was a poor decision, but the underlying free speech issue still exists