Message from @LotheronPrime

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2018-05-29 13:26:28 UTC  

I agree that using mansplaining to shut someone up is rude and not nice. But hate speech is a loaded thing that I would not use lightly. Especially if the silencing is not enforced and it just disrupts conversations...

2018-05-29 13:27:44 UTC  

well i think the point is that the term hate-speech is used like every other buzz word, like racism, sexism, islamaphobia

2018-05-29 13:28:11 UTC  

most things called "hate-speech" are mostly people just being dick-bags

2018-05-29 13:28:49 UTC  

and if we'd all stop being snowflakes and just call someone a d-bag and ignore them, move on, or better yet, prove them wrong, things would work themselves out

2018-05-29 13:29:02 UTC  

that's not possible, dave

2018-05-29 13:30:04 UTC  

"Men men spread because we wear genitals outside. If you don’t like, please demand women to contract heir boobs inside of their bodies"

2018-05-29 13:30:45 UTC  

big boobs are demeaning to those with smaller boobs, all women should be forced to strap their boobs down so that we all look like men.

2018-05-29 13:34:58 UTC  

Yeah. If I have the feeling someone is being condescending towards me I tell them...

2018-05-29 13:35:00 UTC  

Why the generalizatiom

2018-05-29 13:42:18 UTC  

I would say attacking the credibility of a person based on their gender should qualify as this hate speech thingie everyone is talking about.

2018-05-29 13:44:32 UTC  

I'm really on the fence because that opens up the whole can words be attacks thing

2018-05-29 13:44:45 UTC  

there's no such thing as hate speech in the US

2018-05-29 13:44:50 UTC  

and there never *should* be

2018-05-29 13:45:01 UTC  

used to say *will* but I dunno anymore

2018-05-29 13:45:24 UTC  

also @I AM ERROR we already have terms for that slander/libel

2018-05-29 13:46:29 UTC  

But that is mostly words that cause your image in general eye damage. If someone insults you with mansplaining just makes them look dumb and out of arguments.

2018-05-29 13:47:16 UTC  

words that have a financial or reputational harm

2018-05-29 13:47:22 UTC  

insulting someone is fair game

2018-05-29 13:47:38 UTC  

and always should be, just walk away and ignore

2018-05-29 13:48:57 UTC  

So, the media is allowed to report on TR arrest now I guess

2018-05-29 13:49:25 UTC  

and they're saying that 1) he pled guilty and 2) he expressed regrets

2018-05-29 13:49:55 UTC  

this is giving rise to people saying he should be there and he committed a crime and the FreeTommy movement should stop now

2018-05-29 13:50:23 UTC  

but you know fuck free speech right?

2018-05-29 13:50:40 UTC  

free speech doesn't exist outside America

2018-05-29 13:50:51 UTC  

only "Speech we agree with"

2018-05-29 13:50:59 UTC  

right

2018-05-29 13:51:28 UTC  

"They wouldn't be given a free trial" .. wait weren't these people in sentencing anyway?

2018-05-29 13:52:03 UTC  

funny fact

the dutch actually have a freedom of speech law,

But its 7th, whilst the freedom of religion is 1st

Hence its a higher priority to openly do your religion than it is to say what you want

2018-05-29 13:52:40 UTC  

but what if your religion is the "religion of free speech"?

2018-05-29 13:52:59 UTC  

it must be a recognised religion

2018-05-29 13:53:03 UTC  

so even a Jedi doesn't count

2018-05-29 13:53:59 UTC  

so now you have a government validating what someone believes is either recognized or not

2018-05-29 13:54:05 UTC  

Also, our freedom of speech law has conditions,

The state may take your right away if it damages reputation, or harms security

2018-05-29 13:54:18 UTC  

yeah we don't have that

2018-05-29 13:54:23 UTC  

never can be taken away

2018-05-29 13:54:32 UTC  

hence, Tommy would be arrested in Netherlands too, on the grounds his livestream would reflect poorly on Muslims

2018-05-29 13:54:36 UTC  

"shall not be infringed" even though we do have slander/libel laws

2018-05-29 13:54:46 UTC  

yeah so that's not what you call "free speech" 😄

2018-05-29 13:54:56 UTC  

exactly

2018-05-29 13:55:08 UTC  

like i said, its "Freedom of things we agree with"

2018-05-29 13:55:51 UTC  

our version doesn't even protect discrimination

If you're being a racist you're not protected