but you know fuck free speech right?

free speech doesn't exist outside America

only "Speech we agree with"

right

"They wouldn't be given a free trial" .. wait weren't these people in sentencing anyway?

funny fact

the dutch actually have a freedom of speech law,

But its 7th, whilst the freedom of religion is 1st

Hence its a higher priority to openly do your religion than it is to say what you want

but what if your religion is the "religion of free speech"?

it must be a recognised religion

so even a Jedi doesn't count

so now you have a government validating what someone believes is either recognized or not

Also, our freedom of speech law has conditions,

The state may take your right away if it damages reputation, or harms security

yeah we don't have that

never can be taken away

hence, Tommy would be arrested in Netherlands too, on the grounds his livestream would reflect poorly on Muslims

"shall not be infringed" even though we do have slander/libel laws

yeah so that's not what you call "free speech" 😄

exactly

like i said, its "Freedom of things we agree with"

our version doesn't even protect discrimination

If you're being a racist you're not protected

"Yes also all those shouting #freetommy He pleaded GUILTY to contempt of court and breach of suspended sentence. His lawyer said he expressed deep regret ."

Well no one is denying that i think

He had an earlier sentence but got released earlier, and then did this

But this is obviously just a silencing ploy

https://qz.com/1290662/1500-children-were-lost-by-us-immigration-authorities-but-theres-a-problem-with-that-narrative/

1 day conviction, no trial, and british media gets a gag order

well its not actually correct

he didn't plead guilty to CoC

but breaching the peace

which is a new charge

technically should have been a new trial/crime/whatever

well, Britain doesn't share your 5th amendment either

@LotheronPrime slander/libel don‘t specifically target gender and are actually a thing.

that's my point

we already have broader laws on the books, why must they be specialized?

I mean I get the precedent with having hate crime sentencing

dont necessarily agree with it though

The media black out on Tommy Robinson has been lifted. He revived 13 months for attempting to film defendants outside a courthouse. Apparently this is illegal, and it was also clearly posted. Tommy pled guilty and expressed regret.
http://archive.today/dl3TU

wasn't he jsut already repeating what other news outlets had published?

also it was a poor decision, but the underlying free speech issue still exists

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

I definitely don’t agree with U.K. law on this subject. It is my understanding that the names were already public, but it appears that this was about filming the defendants as they entered the court.

I don’t agree at all with these press blackouts.

exactly