Message from @AwesomeGuy42
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but memory is not intelligence
because that implies a possibility of a correlation between *race* and IQ
Mmhmm
why would anyone think memory is intelligence lol
and if you find a correlation between race and IQ
Mmhmm
people will lose their fucking minds
Is like saying the CPU is now a hard disk
nonsense
@AwesomeGuy42 we already have that correlation
alright well let me rephrase
imagine
if we found a causation
There's a correlation. I'm not denying that.
It's a shame that it is prohibited to hire on the basis of IQ
that's why research into hereditary IQ will never be a thing
Observational studies can't draw cause-effect relationships Ivan
You need an experiment to do that
According to the field of statistics anyway
Hence, bringing up rhe ethics of studying that kind of thing
If you're trying to directly tie that correlation to other factors,that's where I have to disqgree
and racial IQ too
and the reason people lose their minds is that one side claims its genetics, clearly, and other side says its environment, and the people who do the tests go "....well its one of those, or both of those.... or maybe none of those.... fuck if we know, it just is what it is."
why is there even a debate
the debate is the ratio
aidanwr yes you can, not as reliable as otherwise, but u can still draw relations
and from what I can tell
it seems like it leans towards genetic
Citation needed
IQ is 90% genetic
idk if it's 90% genetic
And yet
but it's definitely more genetic than environmental
We share a genetic root
even if a person doesnt unfold the full potential they still have a high IQ
Explain this bullshit
we share a genetic root with everything on the planet
look fellas, lets compromise,
Its genetic due to long term environmental differences
No, without an experiment it actually isn't possible to establish a direct cause and effect relationship between two variables
Reliability isn't the issue
It's literally not a valid statistical claim
I didnt say direct cause
I said u can establish a relation that is very likely to be true
because the only way to know is to take people from all over the earth, and make them give birth to a lot of twins. Then one twin becomes the control, the other is the experiment. and we test all kinds of different things. robots are their parents until they are 25. and now we have a bunch of humans, who have never really had to deal with reality, we now need to deal with.
sounds good to me